From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Interesting article on ARG work
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:44:15 +0200
Date: 2018-04-09T16:44:15+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pafu7u$ceg$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 51392e2f-aab5-4d76-8f39-86d3a61c8038@googlegroups.com
On 09/04/2018 16:36, Dan'l Miller wrote:
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 9:13:26 AM UTC-5, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On 09/04/2018 15:40, Dan'l Miller wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 2:43:46 AM UTC-5, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>>> On 09/04/2018 05:50, Dan'l Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am saying that you are 100% incorrect that only the presence or only the absence of the @-code will be compiled in the most-exemplary implementation, leaving the other uncompiled variant to bit-rot uncompiled for extended periods of time.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say that.
>>>
>>> Oh yes you did by examples, where you (and even enlisting the late Ichbiah at one point) give examples of bit-rot where some unwise programmer of @-code left a presence/absence branch of the @-code uncompilable henceforth. Your examples were clearly making the case that Mr. Unwise Programmer was going to stink up the codebase with @-code that was compiled only with @-code present that would break in would-be builds where @-code was absent that Mr. Unwise Programmer cavalierly failed to test-build, but that the next beleaguered programmer would need to rectify upon building with @-code absent. Your entire premise was based on the mistaken claim that the build-time would not build both presence and absence of the @-code in one shot to show Mr. Unwise Programmer the error of his ways right then and there upfront in his face. Let us look at 2 of those examples:
>>>
>>> Dmitry wrote on 08 April 2018:
>>>> More complicated rules are required for declarations, e.g. that
>>>> conditionally declared entities would not be visible outside conditional
>>>> code:
>>>>
>>>> declare
>>>> @ X : Integer;
>>>> Y : Integer;
>>>> begin
>>>> Y := X; -- This is illegal
>>>> @ Y := X; -- This is OK
>>>> end;
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> @ with Text_IO;
>>>> use Text_IO; -- No, that does not work
>>
>> Both examples present would be illegal code. What is your point? To have
>> it legal?
>
> I have already answered that completely in my prior replies: an exemplary implementation would compile both sides of the @-code presence and absence to reveal to Mr. Unwise Programmer his uncouthness right away—either via GLR, GLL, or brute-force invoking the compiler twice, once with and once without @-code.
And the problem/point is?
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Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2018-04-02 3:32 Interesting article on ARG work Randy Brukardt
2018-04-02 14:49 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-03 16:34 ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-03 22:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-04 2:12 ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-04 15:05 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-04 15:30 ` gerdien.de.kruyf
2018-04-04 16:09 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-04 22:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-04 22:43 ` Paul Rubin
2018-04-05 0:44 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-04-05 21:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-05 2:05 ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-05 22:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 13:35 ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-07 2:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-05 7:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-05 22:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 7:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-07 2:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-07 10:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-07 15:27 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-07 15:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-08 0:14 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-08 7:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-08 19:48 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-08 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 3:50 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 6:40 ` Jan de Kruyf
2018-04-09 7:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 13:40 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 14:36 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 14:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2018-04-09 15:03 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 16:12 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 16:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 16:45 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 17:33 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 19:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 20:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-10 8:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 18:08 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 21:17 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 22:09 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-10 19:23 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-10 19:46 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-15 7:50 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-15 13:31 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-15 18:37 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 20:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 23:49 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-12 10:21 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-04-15 13:07 ` Ada conditional compilation and program variants Niklas Holsti
2018-05-07 8:41 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-04-06 13:35 ` Interesting article on ARG work Marius Amado-Alves
2018-04-07 2:15 ` Randy Brukardt
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