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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Interesting article on ARG work
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 09:43:44 +0200
Date: 2018-04-09T09:43:44+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <paf5jf$tik$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8fca2fed-2721-48dc-95e5-5b98e7c1fa70@googlegroups.com

On 09/04/2018 05:50, Dan'l Miller wrote:

> I am saying that you are 100% incorrect that only the presence or only the absence of the @-code will be compiled in the most-exemplary implementation, leaving the other uncompiled variant to bit-rot uncompiled for extended periods of time.

I didn't say that. On the contrary all combinations must be compiled 
independently on which parts are presently active or inactive. Just the 
same way a pragma is compiled regardless if the compiler is going to 
ignore it in the end. That is the difference to preprocessing.

   I am saying that you sure appear to be quite ignorant of GLR parsers' 
ability to parse both the presence and absence of the @-code 
••concurrently in the same invocation•• of the compiler in O(n) time

Correct. I don't care about LR etc parsers and consider the whole branch 
of formal grammars with accompanied parsers useless. None of the 
compilers from domain-specific language I developed over years ever used 
that stuff.

If you want to say that your parser could not handle that, I would not 
question that. Maybe. Though I doubt that, but do not care, because see 
above.

I also consider the idea of source code generation in general and from a 
formal grammar in particular incredibly harmful for the software 
development POV. There must be no meta-languages involved except where 
absolutely necessary (e.g. in correctness proofs)

> I am saying that nearly everything that you have said among your multiple replies to Randy's @-code is hogwash and horse-hooey.  Perhaps.  Every.  Word.  Of.  It.

It is easy to be perfect. To be wrong in every word is almost impossible 
(due to the Liar Antinomy). So thanks. (:-))

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-09  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-02  3:32 Interesting article on ARG work Randy Brukardt
2018-04-02 14:49 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-03 16:34   ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-03 22:33     ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-04  2:12       ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-04 15:05       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-04 15:30         ` gerdien.de.kruyf
2018-04-04 16:09           ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-04 22:30         ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-04 22:43           ` Paul Rubin
2018-04-05  0:44             ` Mehdi Saada
2018-04-05 21:23               ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-05  2:05           ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-05 22:12             ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 13:35               ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-07  2:01                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-05  7:21           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-05 22:18             ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06  7:30               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-07  2:25                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-07 10:11                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-07 15:27                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-07 15:59                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-08  0:14                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-08  7:46                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-08 19:48                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-08 20:09                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09  3:50                                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09  6:40                                   ` Jan de Kruyf
2018-04-09  7:43                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2018-04-09 13:40                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 14:13                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 14:36                                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 14:44                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 15:03                                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 16:12                               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 16:30                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 16:45                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 17:33                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 19:47                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 20:24                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-10  8:17                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 18:08                                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 21:17                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 22:09                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-10 19:23                                       ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-10 19:46                                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-15  7:50                                           ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-15 13:31                                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-15 18:37                                               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 20:14                       ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 23:49               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-12 10:21                 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-04-15 13:07                   ` Ada conditional compilation and program variants Niklas Holsti
2018-05-07  8:41                     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-04-06 13:35 ` Interesting article on ARG work Marius Amado-Alves
2018-04-07  2:15   ` Randy Brukardt
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