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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Interesting article on ARG work
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 17:18:57 -0500
Date: 2018-04-05T17:18:57-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pa67ci$t34$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: pa4ip3$1ton$1@gioia.aioe.org

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message 
news:pa4ip3$1ton$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 05/04/2018 00:30, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>
>> There is a much more general proposal for Ada 2020 called "ghost code" - 
>> a
>> silly name for code and declarations intended only to be used by 
>> assertions.
>> (The idea being that if it is marked and enforced as such, it can be 
>> removed
>> when the Assertion_Policy is Ignore.)
>>
>> Using that (which may or may not make it into Ada 2020 -- we haven't yet
>> discussed it at a meeting), one could use a ghost function for this 
>> purpose:
>>
>>        function My_Assertion (...) return Boolean is
>>            (if Condition then raise Assertion_Error with Message else 
>> True)
>>            with Ghost;
>>
>>       pragma Assert (My_Assertion (...));
>>
>> (Note: The "..." here is any objects that Condition needs to be 
>> evaluated.)
>
> Assertion code is quite useless from my point of view, but what about 
> debugging code? It is quite tedious to comment it in and out all the time 
> (and with/use clauses required for it).

My assumption has always been that Ghost code could be used for that as 
well, but since it's more of an idea than a proposal, it's hard to say 
anything definitive.

If you used Janus/Ada, you'd have a built-in solution for that (sadly, 
incompatible with Ada 2020): the @ conditional compilation marker. It is 
interpreted as either "--" or " " depending on a compilation flag, so it can 
easily add or remove anything. We originally invented it to deal with 
debugging/assertion code in the Janus/Ada compiler; probably about 25% of 
the code in Janus/Ada is marked that way. Since it is lexical, it can 
comment out anything, including declarations, pragmas, and with clauses.

In programs intended to be portable, I just use static Boolean flags for 
debugging code. Any compiler with decent dead code elimination (which would 
be about all of them) will get rid of most/all of the code that way. But 
that doesn't work on pragmas, context clauses, or declarations, so it isn't 
quite as through as @. (With Janus/Ada, which does dead subprogram 
elimination during binding, including for tagged type primitives, the 
difference isn't that substantial unless large data declarations are 
involved.)

               Randy.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-05 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-02  3:32 Interesting article on ARG work Randy Brukardt
2018-04-02 14:49 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-03 16:34   ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-03 22:33     ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-04  2:12       ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-04 15:05       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-04 15:30         ` gerdien.de.kruyf
2018-04-04 16:09           ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-04 22:30         ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-04 22:43           ` Paul Rubin
2018-04-05  0:44             ` Mehdi Saada
2018-04-05 21:23               ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-05  2:05           ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-05 22:12             ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 13:35               ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-07  2:01                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-05  7:21           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-05 22:18             ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2018-04-06  7:30               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-07  2:25                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-07 10:11                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-07 15:27                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-07 15:59                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-08  0:14                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-08  7:46                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-08 19:48                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-08 20:09                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09  3:50                                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09  6:40                                   ` Jan de Kruyf
2018-04-09  7:43                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 13:40                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 14:13                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 14:36                                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 14:44                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 15:03                                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 16:12                               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 16:30                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 16:45                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 17:33                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 19:47                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 20:24                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-10  8:17                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 18:08                                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 21:17                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 22:09                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-10 19:23                                       ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-10 19:46                                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-15  7:50                                           ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-15 13:31                                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-15 18:37                                               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 20:14                       ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 23:49               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-12 10:21                 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-04-15 13:07                   ` Ada conditional compilation and program variants Niklas Holsti
2018-05-07  8:41                     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-04-06 13:35 ` Interesting article on ARG work Marius Amado-Alves
2018-04-07  2:15   ` Randy Brukardt
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