Re: Why no socket package in the standard ?

["Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>]

On Tue, 24 May 2011 18:10:49 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> On 24.05.11 16:59, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 16:28:32 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>> 
>>> On 24.05.11 14:53, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Communication between programs
>>>> is distribution, the annex E.
>>>
>>> Yes.  If the endpoints of communication are Ada partitions.
>>> Otherwise ...?
>> 
>> Non-Ada programs = non-programs. No offence to other languages meant, it is
>> just so that we cannot communicate them at this height of abstraction
>> level.
> 
> But we do have an ORB style of distribution; and since ORBs
> can be language neutral, Non-Ada programs might be programs,
> again.

Yes. That would be a very different level, and usage under 1%.

>>> If these issues are central to Ada programming, and future-proof,
>>> there might be funding for isolating a few requirements.  Then start
>>> from these requirements.
>> 
>> From CAN Open, ASAP, ASAM etc? Are you kidding?
> 
> No, I mean transport as a concept, considering pay load,
> buffers, timeouts, latency; interaction with possible RTSs;
> things that matter to programming the level in question.
> E.g., is there anything special regarding interrupt handling
> when it comes to receiving data?  (Likely not, I think?)

Those look non-functional (QoS etc). What about starting with the
functional part. That looks pretty weak.
 
>>> The original question was, "Why no socket package in the standard?".
>>>
>>> Let me rephrase it: "Why no ISO/IEC 14519:2001 package in the standard?"
>> 
>> I cannot say. I do not care much about POSIX, maybe, others do not either.
>> Why is it relevant to sockets?
> 
> http://www.cs.scranton.edu/~beidler/Ada/posix/posix-sockets-internet.html
> 
> Or so I thought, at least.

I see, you meant POSIX sockets.

BTW, IPPROTO_RAW does not work under Windows (I didn't test VxWorks). Does
it mean that Ada standard should require RTL to provide an NDIS to hack
that?

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Dmitry A. Kazakov
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