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From: Jim Kingdon <kingdon@panix7.panix.com>
Subject: Re: Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3!
Date: 1999/04/22
Date: 1999-04-22T15:20:35+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p4waew0y94u.fsf@panix7.panix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 371F3734.F47236E2@pwfl.com

> Its pretty much a conglomerate of stuff that is by its very nature
> multi-user/multi-platform and typically calls for a lot of custom
> support and hand-holding.

Well, that might be an argument for open source rather than an
argument against it.  The big problem with trying to sell open source
software via support contracts is that most users don't really
need/want the support.  But if the nature of the product is that most
users will need some customization and help, then that particular
problem isn't as bad (now, it isn't really the way to get massive
numbers of sites using it, but it might work out for sites which want
to deal with this).

For an example of this business model, see
http://www.onshore-timesheet.com/ - this used to be a non-open-source
product but they made it open source because they figured most of the
money was for the customization and other services rather than the
license anyway.  Or http://www.zope.org/ is perhaps a better example
(in which it was, interestingly, the venture capitalists who decided
on open source when the technical people in the startup had been
scared to take the plunge).  Too early to tell whether this will be a
financial success for onShore or the Zope guys, but it strikes me as a
workable model.

Bringing it back to P&W and the Pictures-to-Code program, it is quite
clear that someone outside P&W needs to get a bee in their bonnet and
decide they want to make this happen (with $$$ or some other suitable
incentive).  Has anyone asked Ada Core (http://www.gnat.com/)?  No
idea whether they would be interested, but it seems like a conceivable
fit.




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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <371B6EC8.36B9C247@pwfl.com>
1999-04-19  0:00 ` Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3! Mike_jr
1999-04-19  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-19  0:00     ` Bruce L
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-20  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20  0:00     ` "Paul E. Bennett"
1999-04-20  0:00     ` dennison
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20  0:00         ` Jerry Petrey
1999-04-20  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Jerry Petrey
1999-04-21  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21  0:00     ` Stephen Leake
1999-04-21  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21  0:00         ` Ken
1999-04-22  0:00           ` Jim Kingdon
1999-04-22  0:00             ` mike
1999-04-22  0:00             ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00               ` William P.Milam
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-23  0:00                   ` William P.Milam
1999-04-23  0:00                     ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-28  0:00                 ` Philip Koopman
1999-04-28  0:00                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` William P.Milam
     [not found]                     ` <372A354F.F3539E74@mindspring.com>
1999-05-13  0:00                       ` Matrix X Code Generation (Was Re: Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3!) Mark Bennison
1999-04-22  0:00           ` Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3! Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00             ` Jim Kingdon [this message]
1999-04-22  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00               ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-22  0:00         ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-22  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00             ` Ken Keys
1999-04-22  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Dino Gianisis
1999-04-23  0:00                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-23  0:00                 ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-23  0:00                 ` Frank McKenney
1999-04-22  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-21  0:00 ` Ken
1999-04-22  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21  0:00 ` Ken
1999-04-23  0:00 harbaugh
1999-04-26  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-29  0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
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