From: "G.B." <bauhaus@notmyhomepage.invalid>
Subject: Re: ADA.STRINGS.INDEX_ERROR : a-strunb.adb:782
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 00:27:33 +0100
Date: 2018-01-22T00:27:33+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <p437l6$2lt$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c7bd6af-5eb8-415b-8808-e8d85c0c4d99@googlegroups.com>
On 18.01.18 15:17, Mehdi Saada wrote:
> Since universal_integer is meant to be compatible with everything, and since Ada83 is long gone,
> could "function Length return Integer renames Object_Array'Length" be accepted now ? I don't think it could break any existing code to accept something that wasn't.
>
There is more to 'Image, which is a type attribute like 'Size.
Handling types is the realm of compilers.
Consider 'Value, which is paired with 'Image. Suppose there is
an enumeration subtype like that of
type T is ('$', '¥', '£');
We now have
X = T'Value (T'Image (X))
and, usually,
S = T'Image (T'Value (S))
However, given the history of String design in programming
languages, things have become tricky.
Not because of a lack of symmetry between 'Image and 'Value
as written above.
Rather, I think, because of that tendency in language design
which bows before elementary school training. Hence,
Ada has removed symmetry: for example, in place of making
"+" a required part of numeric literals such as are input
to 'Image, it can be omitted. So, these values are now all
equal in Ada:
Positive'Value ("42")
Positive'Value (" 42")
Positive'Value ("+42")
Positive'Value (" 42 ")
Positive'Value ("+42 ")
Very flexible and convenient, at first sight, I think. And done
for good reasons, at the time, perhaps: because, for output,
everyone would use an instance of a package from Text_IO,
and not 'Image. Right? No problem could have been anticipated.
This design decision has led to an endless discussion about
leading spaces in the result of 'Image for non-negatives.
At the root, elementary school habits in engineering make
programmers proudly dismiss the idea of writing numbers
symmetrically, with signs for both negatives and positives,
and maybe some technical prefix like " " attached to (non-FPT) 0.
OTOH, if programmers are smart enough to handle the compiler's
job of defining 'Image and 'Value, they are able to perform
well as substitutes: by providing the compiler with all correct
implementations for parsing and printing all user-defined literals
of any user-defined type.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-15 1:18 ADA.STRINGS.INDEX_ERROR : a-strunb.adb:782 Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 3:23 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-15 8:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-15 10:49 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-15 11:51 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 12:00 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 13:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-15 18:55 ` Shark8
2018-01-15 13:51 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-15 15:18 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 15:29 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 15:50 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 17:53 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-15 17:22 ` Anh Vo
2018-01-15 17:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-15 19:56 ` Anh Vo
2018-01-16 16:06 ` Brian Drummond
2018-01-16 17:21 ` Anh Vo
2018-01-15 10:37 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-15 16:06 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-17 19:23 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-16 16:24 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-16 18:20 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-01-16 20:00 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-17 15:45 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-17 16:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-17 22:50 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-18 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-18 11:14 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-18 11:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-18 12:21 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-18 13:08 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-01-18 15:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-19 1:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-19 8:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-20 0:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-20 9:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-23 0:44 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-18 14:05 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-18 14:17 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-18 14:56 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-01-18 15:38 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-19 1:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-18 16:48 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-18 16:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-18 19:36 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-19 1:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-19 16:15 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-19 16:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-21 23:27 ` G.B. [this message]
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