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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: ADA.STRINGS.INDEX_ERROR : a-strunb.adb:782
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 09:52:27 +0100
Date: 2018-01-19T09:52:27+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p3sbkb$1msl$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: p3rgij$9h2$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk

On 19/01/2018 02:10, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
> news:p3qe4m$t5n$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> On 18/01/2018 14:08, J-P. Rosen wrote:
>>
>>> If the user were allowed to define identifiers with a quote, these would
>>> not be true any more, and there would be no benefit in using a
>>> distinctive syntax.
>>
>> As if there were any benefit of.
> 
> The benefit is that these things can express ideas that aren't possible for
> ordinary subprogram calls.

That does not justify special syntax. E.g. initialization cannot be 
expressed as a subprogram call either, nevertheless there is no special 
syntax for declaration of objects with non-null initialization.

> To express Subtype'First as a function, one would
> have to have some sort of meta-type (a subtype parameter).

I don't think this is related.

(However I am glad that you begin to see subtypes as proper types. (:-))

> You'd also have
> to allow "univeral_integer" and the like as expressible data types (meaning
> that you'd have to decide what they mean at runtime). All things that could
> be done -- in a new language -- but it would be extremely difficult to
> define such things and keep compatibility with existing Ada.

You know that I disagree with this. In my view it is possible to allow

1. interfaces and class-wides for scalar types

2. cloning of type hierarchies by Ada 83 style

    type Y is new X;

Universal_Integer would be a parent of any integer type in its hierarchy.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-19  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-15  1:18 ADA.STRINGS.INDEX_ERROR : a-strunb.adb:782 Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15  3:23 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-15  8:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-15 10:49   ` Simon Wright
2018-01-15 11:51     ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 12:00       ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 13:32         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-15 18:55         ` Shark8
2018-01-15 13:51       ` Simon Wright
2018-01-15 15:18         ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 15:29           ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 15:50             ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-15 17:53               ` Simon Wright
2018-01-15 17:22   ` Anh Vo
2018-01-15 17:48     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-15 19:56       ` Anh Vo
2018-01-16 16:06     ` Brian Drummond
2018-01-16 17:21       ` Anh Vo
2018-01-15 10:37 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-15 16:06 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-17 19:23   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-16 16:24 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-16 18:20   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-01-16 20:00     ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-17 15:45 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-17 16:30   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-17 22:50     ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-18  8:34       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-18 11:14         ` Simon Wright
2018-01-18 11:55           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-18 12:21             ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-18 13:08               ` J-P. Rosen
2018-01-18 15:23                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-19  1:10                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-19  8:52                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2018-01-20  0:42                       ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-20  9:47                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-23  0:44                           ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-18 14:05         ` AdaMagica
2018-01-18 14:17           ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-18 14:56             ` J-P. Rosen
2018-01-18 15:38               ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-19  1:13                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-18 16:48             ` AdaMagica
2018-01-18 16:59               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-18 19:36                 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-19  1:21                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-19 16:15                 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-19 16:58                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-21 23:27             ` G.B.
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