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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Inspiration for a better calendar package?
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:46:16 +0100
Date: 2008-12-15T14:46:17+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p42120onfljs.hnon9ry3mwqh.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6qn2kmFdflp2U1@mid.individual.net

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:59:02 +0100, Wilhelm Spickermann wrote:

> On the other hand, we can make an appointment for the
> 17-aug-2023, 10:00 UTC and this is also a somehow clearly
> specified point in time, as we would be able to meet at that
> time.

No we cannot. 17-aug-2023, 10:00 UTC has no meaning. We don't know if this
date will ever exist.

> But no one is able to convert this specification to
> a "real time" now. (That's why I refuse to call it UTC.)

This specification does not specify time. It is a text pattern which may
match or not some time point(s) in the future. It exactly same as "when
leaves will turn red."

> The resolution of "one nominial minute" (_not_ a physical unit)
> for wall clock time was chosen, because it's the finest usable
> resultion. We can tell that we have 4 nominal minutes between
> 31-dec-2044 23:59:58 and 01-jan-2045 00:00:02. But we cannot
> express this difference in seconds (or in the physical unit "one
> minute"). We will hopefully be able to do that in summer 2044 or
> perhaps earlier, when the leap seconds are eliminated.

Minute is a physical unit. Political minute is not. We just do not need the
latter, because it does not satisfy some fundamental requirements of a
physical unit, like anisotropy in 4D space. Why bother with it then?

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-15 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-09  9:48 Inspiration for a better calendar package? Jacob Sparre Andersen
2008-12-09 10:15 ` Martin
2008-12-09 11:15   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-12-09 12:23     ` Martin
2008-12-09 15:16     ` JDECS
2008-12-09 15:44       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-12-09 17:04         ` JDECS
2008-12-15  7:45     ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2008-12-15  9:00       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-12-15 12:14         ` m.collado
2008-12-15 13:35           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-12-15 12:59         ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2008-12-15 13:46           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2008-12-16  0:47             ` sjw
2008-12-16  8:41               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-12-16 12:08                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-12-16  5:50             ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2008-12-16  8:50               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-12-16 12:23                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-12-17  6:16                 ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2008-12-17  8:29                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-12-18 21:48                     ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2008-12-19  8:38                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
     [not found]           ` <9ImdneCohuZCNdvUnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@earthlink.com>
2008-12-16  5:13             ` Wilhelm Spickermann
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