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From: G. B. <nonlegitur@nmhp.invalid>
Subject: Re: stopping a loop iteration without exiting it
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:22:43 -0000 (UTC)
Date: 2018-01-12T09:22:43+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p39up3$jg4$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: p39r4s$qod$1@gioia.aioe.org

Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> On 11/01/2018 21:54, G. B. wrote:
>> Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> L:
>>>> [for|while...] loop
>>>> ...
>>>> goto L;
>>>> ...
>>>> end loop L;

>> loop is intended for the opposite, for when it’s not over yet.
>> For when it’s done again. “exit” cannot mean that, but the
>> hypothesized goto can.
> 
> 1. "exit" can:
> 
>    exit when <condition>;
> 
> When condition evaluates false the loop continues.
 
Well, no, the loop’s body continues. Doing so, it doesn’t
trigger another iteration, unlike “goto Continue”, or “goto L”.
It doesn’t drive.

Hence the following doesn’t apply to the case in point:
> 2. "goto" cannot in any deeper sense than "exit" does because it is not 
> "goto" which would drive the loop in this case.

>> Actually, “if” itself cannot directly make the program
>> iterate, unlike “goto”.
> 
> Not in the case at hand.

I’ll let your new case rest in your hands.


> P.S. Take if + a subroutine call. That gives recursion. Then following 
> your flawed logic either if or loop is bad.

Indeed this is a functionist’s main tenet. 
But then, if CALL and COND do not suffice, i.e., if they need 
an additional goto-like evaluation driver, then the functional
language is broken.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-12  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-03 16:54 stopping a loop iteration without exiting it Mehdi Saada
2018-01-03 17:23 ` Lucretia
2018-01-03 21:19   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-03 23:17     ` Robert A Duff
2018-01-04  8:47       ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-05  1:31         ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-04 10:08       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-04 11:02         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-04 19:46           ` Robert A Duff
2018-01-04 20:47             ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-04 21:17             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-04 23:08               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-05  8:38                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-06 16:50                   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-06 17:20                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-07 11:36                       ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-07 12:05                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-07 21:22                           ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-08  8:35                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-08 20:57                       ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-08 21:19                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-08 21:48                           ` Submitting requests to the ARG, was: " Simon Clubley
2018-01-09  9:45                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-08 22:35                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 16:34               ` Robert A Duff
2018-01-05 19:09                 ` G. B.
2018-01-07 11:52               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-07 12:27                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-06  0:53           ` Keith Thompson
2018-01-06  8:36             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-06  8:49               ` gautier_niouzes
2018-01-06  9:26                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-08 11:05                 ` mockturtle
2018-01-09 11:05               ` AdaMagica
2018-01-09 11:26                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-09 12:50                   ` Simon Wright
2018-01-09 13:07                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-09 13:47                       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-01-09 14:53                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-09 20:07                           ` G. B.
2018-01-10  8:13                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-10 21:14                               ` G. B.
2018-01-11 12:48                                 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-11 20:54                                   ` G. B.
2018-01-11 13:06                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-11 17:11                                   ` Simon Wright
2018-01-11 17:30                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-11 18:09                                       ` Simon Wright
2018-01-11 20:54                                   ` G. B.
2018-01-12  8:20                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-12  9:22                                       ` G. B. [this message]
2018-01-12  9:42                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-10 10:52                       ` AdaMagica
2018-01-10 11:14                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-10 11:21                           ` AdaMagica
2018-01-10 13:47                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-04 21:52         ` Mart van de Wege
2018-01-05 13:17           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 14:35             ` Mart van de Wege
2018-01-05 15:21               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 19:13                 ` Paul Rubin
2018-01-05 23:50                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-06  1:19                   ` G. B.
2018-01-06  9:59                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05  1:17         ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-05 14:05           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 23:58             ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-04 12:43     ` gautier_niouzes
2018-01-03 17:28 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-03 18:27 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-06  0:26 ` Matt Borchers
2018-01-06 22:04   ` J-P. Rosen
2018-01-07  2:05     ` Matt Borchers
2018-01-08 20:49   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-07 11:33 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-07 11:45   ` Simon Wright
2018-01-08  0:58   ` Matt Borchers
2018-01-07 17:47 ` Micah Waddoups
2018-01-07 21:04   ` Simon Wright
2018-01-23  3:49 ` Robert Eachus
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