From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: stopping a loop iteration without exiting it
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:20:45 +0100
Date: 2018-01-12T09:20:45+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <p39r4s$qod$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: p38iul$t2h$1@dont-email.me
On 11/01/2018 21:54, G. B. wrote:
> Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>
>>>> I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
>>>
>>>
>>> L:
>>> [for|while...] loop
>>> ...
>>> goto L;
>>> ...
>>> end loop L;
>>>
>>> Both outer Ls are part of what indicates the beginning
>>> and end of the loop, resp. So, as others said in this thread,
>>> there is syntactical ambiguity when using L with goto.
>>> The meaning of the goto L is not clear or agreed upon
>>> either, as readers here have said.
>>
>> Substitute "exit" for "goto" and reread your text.
>
> When writing, I also thought about “return” and about
> exceptions, not just about “exit”. But none of them has
> the potential of driving the iterative process, they just
> leave it, the building block. It will be over.
So what? In either case actions are non-trivial because they potentially
involve finalization of objects and types.
> loop is intended for the opposite, for when it’s not over yet.
> For when it’s done again. “exit” cannot mean that, but the
> hypothesized goto can.
1. "exit" can:
exit when <condition>;
When condition evaluates false the loop continues.
2. "goto" cannot in any deeper sense than "exit" does because it is not
"goto" which would drive the loop in this case.
>>> A loop statement is a means of controlling flow. So is goto.
>>> A loop controls iteration. Suppose that an additional
>>> goto is needed to express that. Then this thread will
>>> have discovered that Ada loops are deficient as building
>>> blocks of iteration.
>>
>> Substitute "if" for "goto".
>
> Actually, “if” itself cannot directly make the program
> iterate, unlike “goto”.
Not in the case at hand.
P.S. Take if + a subroutine call. That gives recursion. Then following
your flawed logic either if or loop is bad.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2018-01-03 16:54 stopping a loop iteration without exiting it Mehdi Saada
2018-01-03 17:23 ` Lucretia
2018-01-03 21:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-03 23:17 ` Robert A Duff
2018-01-04 8:47 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-05 1:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-04 10:08 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-04 11:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-04 19:46 ` Robert A Duff
2018-01-04 20:47 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-04 21:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-04 23:08 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-05 8:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-06 16:50 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-06 17:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-07 11:36 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-07 12:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-07 21:22 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-08 8:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-08 20:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-08 21:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-08 21:48 ` Submitting requests to the ARG, was: " Simon Clubley
2018-01-09 9:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-08 22:35 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 16:34 ` Robert A Duff
2018-01-05 19:09 ` G. B.
2018-01-07 11:52 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-01-07 12:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-06 0:53 ` Keith Thompson
2018-01-06 8:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-06 8:49 ` gautier_niouzes
2018-01-06 9:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-08 11:05 ` mockturtle
2018-01-09 11:05 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-09 11:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-09 12:50 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-09 13:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-09 13:47 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-01-09 14:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-09 20:07 ` G. B.
2018-01-10 8:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-10 21:14 ` G. B.
2018-01-11 12:48 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-11 20:54 ` G. B.
2018-01-11 13:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-11 17:11 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-11 17:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-11 18:09 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-11 20:54 ` G. B.
2018-01-12 8:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2018-01-12 9:22 ` G. B.
2018-01-12 9:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-10 10:52 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-10 11:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-10 11:21 ` AdaMagica
2018-01-10 13:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-01-04 21:52 ` Mart van de Wege
2018-01-05 13:17 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 14:35 ` Mart van de Wege
2018-01-05 15:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 19:13 ` Paul Rubin
2018-01-05 23:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-06 1:19 ` G. B.
2018-01-06 9:59 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 1:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-05 14:05 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-05 23:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-04 12:43 ` gautier_niouzes
2018-01-03 17:28 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-01-03 18:27 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-06 0:26 ` Matt Borchers
2018-01-06 22:04 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-01-07 2:05 ` Matt Borchers
2018-01-08 20:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-01-07 11:33 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-01-07 11:45 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-08 0:58 ` Matt Borchers
2018-01-07 17:47 ` Micah Waddoups
2018-01-07 21:04 ` Simon Wright
2018-01-23 3:49 ` Robert Eachus
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