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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: some trivial questions?
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:24:52 -0600
Date: 2017-11-27T18:24:52-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <oviack$d95$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87efoper6i.fsf@nightsong.com

"Paul Rubin" <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:87efoper6i.fsf@nightsong.com...
> "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
>> Creating a model that both formal and understandable by a run-of-the-mill
>> language lawyer and finding volunteers to create the model seems unlikely
>> (to say the least).
>
> Well I thought Ada was originally sponsored by big-money defense
> agencies, but maybe that was only Ada-83.

Ada 9x (which ultimately became Ada 95) was also a big-money project. But 
all work since has been accomplished basically by volunteers; I'm the only 
paid person, and only for about 1/4 time. (Volunteers don't do the 
paper-pushing jobs that are necessary to finish a project, especially in the 
world of international standards, thus some paid person is necessary, 
certainly for projects that are long-lasting like Ada.)

> Anyway, I do think there was
> some formalization work for Scheme in the 1980s and ML in the 1990s.  I
> can understand how it could be much harder for Ada, since Scheme and ML
> operate under some convenient illusions like having infinite memory,
> which Ada cannot.

There was some formalization work for Ada as part of the Ada 9x project 
(remember, "big money" as you described it). I don't know much about it 
other than that it existed; perhaps Tucker Taft or Bob Duff (both of whom 
worked at the center of the Ada 9x project) know more.

                                 Randy.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-28  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01 18:44 some trivial questions? tclwarrior
2017-11-01 19:55 ` Shark8
2017-11-01 20:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-01 21:30 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-11-06 22:43   ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-01 21:39 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-02  1:19 ` tclwarrior
2017-11-02  3:04   ` Luke A. Guest
2017-11-02  4:19   ` gautier_niouzes
2017-11-06 22:52     ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-17  0:45       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-02  8:27   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-02 13:21     ` Simon Wright
2017-11-02 13:34       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-06 22:58         ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-07 11:50           ` Simon Wright
2017-11-17  0:51     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-17  8:32       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-18  1:14         ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-18  9:19           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-20  5:40             ` J-P. Rosen
2017-11-20  8:22               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-20 22:03             ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-21 10:26               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-22  0:56                 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-22  1:14                   ` Paul Rubin
2017-11-23  0:15                     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-23  0:19                       ` Victor Porton
2017-11-23  1:09                       ` Paul Rubin
2017-11-28  0:24                         ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2017-11-22  8:42                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-23  0:19                     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-23  1:11                       ` Paul Rubin
2017-11-23  8:37                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-28  0:19                         ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-23  8:42                       ` G. B.
2017-11-23 19:57                   ` Blady
2017-11-23 21:30                     ` J-P. Rosen
2017-11-23 23:24                       ` Shark8
2017-11-23 22:13                     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-11-28  0:34                     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-02  8:39   ` Stefan.Lucks
2017-11-02 10:29   ` Simon Wright
2017-11-02 10:37     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-02 16:54   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-02 17:17     ` Simon Wright
2017-11-02  3:53 ` gautier_niouzes
2017-11-02 11:15 ` joakimds
2017-11-06 19:33 ` G. B.
2017-11-06 20:53 ` Pascal Obry
2017-11-06 21:07   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-06 21:14     ` Pascal Obry
2017-11-06 21:21       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-17  0:57       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-17  8:40         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-17  9:12           ` Simon Wright
2017-11-18  1:27           ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-18  2:29             ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-11-18  9:32             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-06 21:16   ` Simon Wright
2017-11-06 21:43     ` Pascal Obry
2017-11-17  0:59       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-06 22:37 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-07  2:25   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-11-07  8:34   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-08 22:49     ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-09  8:49       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-09 15:36         ` AdaMagica
2017-11-09 16:58           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-09 18:10             ` AdaMagica
2017-11-09 20:05               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-09 21:11                 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-09 21:38                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-09 22:52                     ` AdaMagica
2017-11-10  8:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-10 18:21                 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-11-10 19:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-11 11:32                     ` AdaMagica
2017-11-11 12:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-11 15:38                         ` AdaMagica
2017-11-11 21:36                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-12  5:21                       ` J-P. Rosen
2017-11-14 16:49                       ` Robert Eachus
2017-11-14 17:34                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-17  1:11                     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-17  8:42                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-10 20:30                   ` G. B.
2017-11-17  1:08                 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-09 22:43               ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-09 22:56                 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-10  8:22                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-10 15:47                   ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-10 15:54                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-14 15:58                       ` Robert Eachus
2017-11-14 16:22                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-17  1:16                     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-17  1:06             ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-09 18:08         ` Simon Wright
2017-11-09 20:07           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-07 17:41   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-08 10:20     ` Brian Drummond
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