From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: some trivial questions?
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 09:27:45 +0100
Date: 2017-11-02T09:27:45+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <oteku0$ek3$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ff607ea1-9d64-441b-b5e6-1a4377a5a199@googlegroups.com
On 02/11/2017 02:19, tclwarrior@gmail.com wrote:
> i think every time you insert a use, you will most definitely add a
> with> it just look to me, that this is a bit redundant to add two
> line, when one should do ... the compiler can should easily assume
> that
Yes. There is no reason why "with" could not be deduced from "use". E.g.
it is no problem to move with out of the local scope:
declare
use Bar; -- Cannot have with Bar here, but who cares?
begin
...
There is no problem to determine if "use" refers to a local package like:
declare
package Foo is new Boo;
use Foo; -- Cannot with Foo, but again who cares?
begin
It is historically so and also there is a great unjustified sentiment
against "use" in Ada community. I have a theory that people are either
lazy to design their package in a way to make it friendly for "use" or
take too big dosages of generics (:-)). Ada generics are totally "use"
unfriendly.
> i think in a program with a large import (use) list of libraries, this can
> save many lines and looks cleaner
This is rather a different issue. "Use" is not transitive. If you "use
A" in B and then "use B" in C that does not make "use A" in C. In a
great number of cases one would like to have transitive "use". In many
other cases one would like to have it as it is. This is a long-standing
problem of having to reusable "package interfaces".
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2017-11-01 18:44 some trivial questions? tclwarrior
2017-11-01 19:55 ` Shark8
2017-11-01 20:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-01 21:30 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-11-06 22:43 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-01 21:39 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-02 1:19 ` tclwarrior
2017-11-02 3:04 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-11-02 4:19 ` gautier_niouzes
2017-11-06 22:52 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-17 0:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-02 8:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2017-11-02 13:21 ` Simon Wright
2017-11-02 13:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-06 22:58 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-07 11:50 ` Simon Wright
2017-11-17 0:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-17 8:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-18 1:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-18 9:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-20 5:40 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-11-20 8:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-20 22:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-21 10:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-22 0:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-22 1:14 ` Paul Rubin
2017-11-23 0:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-23 0:19 ` Victor Porton
2017-11-23 1:09 ` Paul Rubin
2017-11-28 0:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-22 8:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-23 0:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-23 1:11 ` Paul Rubin
2017-11-23 8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-28 0:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-23 8:42 ` G. B.
2017-11-23 19:57 ` Blady
2017-11-23 21:30 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-11-23 23:24 ` Shark8
2017-11-23 22:13 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-11-28 0:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-02 8:39 ` Stefan.Lucks
2017-11-02 10:29 ` Simon Wright
2017-11-02 10:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-02 16:54 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-02 17:17 ` Simon Wright
2017-11-02 3:53 ` gautier_niouzes
2017-11-02 11:15 ` joakimds
2017-11-06 19:33 ` G. B.
2017-11-06 20:53 ` Pascal Obry
2017-11-06 21:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-06 21:14 ` Pascal Obry
2017-11-06 21:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-17 0:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-17 8:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-17 9:12 ` Simon Wright
2017-11-18 1:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-18 2:29 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-11-18 9:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-06 21:16 ` Simon Wright
2017-11-06 21:43 ` Pascal Obry
2017-11-17 0:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-06 22:37 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-07 2:25 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-11-07 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-08 22:49 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-09 8:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-09 15:36 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-09 16:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-09 18:10 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-09 20:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-09 21:11 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-09 21:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-09 22:52 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-10 8:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-10 18:21 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-11-10 19:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-11 11:32 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-11 12:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-11 15:38 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-11 21:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-12 5:21 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-11-14 16:49 ` Robert Eachus
2017-11-14 17:34 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-17 1:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-17 8:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-10 20:30 ` G. B.
2017-11-17 1:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-09 22:43 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-09 22:56 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-10 8:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-10 15:47 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-10 15:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-14 15:58 ` Robert Eachus
2017-11-14 16:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-17 1:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-17 1:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-09 18:08 ` Simon Wright
2017-11-09 20:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-07 17:41 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
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