From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Allocators design flaw
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 20:42:45 -0500
Date: 2017-10-20T20:42:45-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ose8ml$qqi$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ort609$1i31$2@gioia.aioe.org
"Victor Porton" <porton@narod.ru> wrote in message
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> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>
>> On 2017-10-14 04:53, Victor Porton wrote:
>>> It is impossible to properly implement an allocator through a C function
>>> (such as raptor_alloc_memory() from Raptor C library) which allocates a
>>> struct and returns the pointer to the allocated struct.
>>>
>>> It is because RM13.11(21.5/3) "The Alignment parameter is a nonzero
>>> integral multiple of D'Alignment..."
>>>
>>> (If it were "The Alignment parameter is equal to D'Alignment", then we
>>> would be able just to check (in Allocate procedure implementation) that
>>>
>>> pragma Assert(Dummy_Record'Alignment mod Alignment = 0);
>>> -- where Dummy_Record is an arbitrary C-convention record
>>> -- (as all C records have the same alignment reqs)
>>>
>>> So Alignment parameter may be arbitrarily big and the C function
>>> alignment may not conform to it.
>>
>> Usually allocators return addresses already rounded and there is nothing
>> to worry about.
>>
>>> Let us think how to work around (in Ada 202x) of this design flaw.
>>
>> If any it is _alloc_memory() flaw, not Ada's.
>
> It is an Ada flaw, because Ada must be able to interact with legacy C
> libraries.
Ada can interact just fine with C libraries. But there was never any
intention that allocators and storage pools would be part of that
interaction. It seems to be the case here that you are trying to fit a
square peg into a round hole.
Keep in mind that all C interfacing is by definition implementation-defined,
since it depends heavily on the C compiler. There's only so much portability
that can be achieved in such interfacing; it can never be 100%.
Randy.
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-14 2:53 Allocators design flaw Victor Porton
2017-10-14 7:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 13:52 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 14:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 14:03 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 14:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 15:18 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 15:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 16:42 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 16:13 ` Simon Wright
2017-10-14 16:38 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 14:12 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 14:20 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 14:24 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 14:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 15:17 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 15:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 16:34 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 17:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 17:24 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 18:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 14:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-10-14 15:14 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 15:42 ` Simon Wright
2017-10-14 16:29 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 20:07 ` Simon Wright
2017-10-14 21:26 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-21 1:42 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2017-10-14 8:02 ` Simon Wright
2017-10-14 13:59 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 14:35 ` Simon Wright
2017-10-14 15:11 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-14 15:56 ` Simon Wright
2017-10-14 16:22 ` Victor Porton
2017-10-29 16:01 ` David Thompson
2017-10-14 14:11 ` Victor Porton
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