From: "Ed Falis" <falis@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:35:26 GMT
Date: 2004-05-29T13:35:26+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <opr8rj1cao5afhvo@news.verizon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 40B888E0.5040707@noplace.com
On Sat, 29 May 2004 12:58:41 GMT, Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
wrote:
>
> Of course if you've allowed for it in the schedule, you won't slip the
> schedule. That depends on your experience with development of similar
> systems. If Ada has a demonstrable edge in this area (cost and schedule)
> then a competitor ought to be able to bid the job lower, wouldn't you
> think?
>
> So where are the Ada shops willing to take on the development and offer
> a lower price? Why isn't there some embedded system development company
> that is agressively going after these projects and offering Ada with a
> cost advantage? If they had a bunch of reusable components for the
> problem domain and they were DO-178b certified, they'd have all that
> leverage to bring to the table too.
>
> We can claim that Ada is superior and bitch because someone else won't
> see that and use it and call them boneheads for doing so. Alternately,
> if we really believed in its superiority, we'd have companies offering
> an Ada alternative and be out-competing the other bidders with low
> cost/high quality alternatives. I guess Ada needs a little more
> entrepreneurial spirit if it expects to get in the door on these things.
> ;-)
Jeez Marin,
Reading an awful lot into a single job ad, don't you think?
See http://www.windriver.com/news/press/20040330b.html regarding the
selection of Wind River's AE653 RTOS for the core avionics. See
http://www.smiths-aerospace.com/Press/Publication/default.asp?PublicationID=75765A3F-1497-4802-BBE0-69EAFC2E63A0&Type=Press
for info about Smiths Aerospace and the 7E7 program. See
http://www.gnat.com/pressroom_11.php for the AdaCore announcement.
- Ed
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-29 1:51 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-29 10:21 ` Per Dalgas Jakobsen
2004-05-29 12:58 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 13:35 ` Ed Falis [this message]
2004-05-29 17:29 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:40 ` Ed Falis
2004-05-29 18:44 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 18:58 ` Ed Falis
2004-05-30 7:55 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-30 11:43 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-30 16:10 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-31 11:56 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:48 ` Wes Groleau
2004-05-29 18:53 ` Marin David Condic
[not found] ` <n42jb05e8rk7bsrtf2ikesu9t0bsmbphji@4ax.com>
2004-05-31 12:04 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-06 10:35 ` I R T
2004-05-30 7:50 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-31 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-02 16:45 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-02 17:48 ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-03 15:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-03 0:09 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-03 1:08 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-03 12:06 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-03 12:33 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-03 16:44 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-03 17:52 ` tmoran
2004-06-04 1:13 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-04 11:27 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-04 18:38 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-06 21:37 ` Leon Winslow
2004-06-07 11:08 ` I R T
2004-06-08 2:22 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-08 9:07 ` I R T
2004-06-08 11:33 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-09 21:02 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-09 21:22 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-09 23:30 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-10 2:02 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-10 2:27 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-10 19:54 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <28rfc01rhesdk2qt27krrr65nnk0n0kihc@4ax.com>
2004-06-12 3:01 ` non sequitur Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-11 16:51 ` 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics (COBOL Popularity) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-11 17:18 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-11 18:49 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-11 19:07 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-11 20:39 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-12 11:16 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-11 21:05 ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-14 12:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-07 11:19 ` 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Marin David Condic
2004-06-07 22:24 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-08 1:11 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-08 2:35 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-08 6:59 ` tmoran
2004-06-08 19:44 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-09 1:32 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-09 6:23 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-09 7:09 ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-10 1:41 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-10 6:13 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-11 2:03 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-12 2:31 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-15 16:07 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-09 7:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-06-09 6:31 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-09 9:43 ` I R T
2004-06-09 15:28 ` Jerry Petrey
2004-05-29 15:58 ` Preben Randhol
2004-05-29 17:45 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:51 ` Ed Falis
2004-05-29 19:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-30 7:57 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-30 18:35 ` Richard Riehle
2004-05-31 12:38 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-04 12:56 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-05 8:49 ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-06 10:27 ` I R T
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-30 10:34 Rod Chapman
2004-06-03 8:18 ` Vernon Brown
2004-06-03 10:45 ` Martin Krischik
2004-06-03 15:52 ` Richard Riehle
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