From: "Vasiliy Molostov" <molostoff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ada 2005 puzzle
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:06:17 +0400
Date: 2012-07-22T13:06:17+04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.whubkrykka8ora@aspire.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1k3eqp61flhso$.ytgqehw2zf5d.dlg@40tude.net
Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> писал(а) в своём письме Sun,
22 Jul 2012 12:19:20 +0400:
>>> Initialization does on the
>>> object's value/state.
>>
>> Before you told that this one converts from raw memory into well formed
>> typed object.
>
> Yes. It is a type conversion: none -> a type
Since you have considered that initialisation is the same as construction,
I suppose you agree.
>> I suppose that setting up state/value of raw memory can completely
>> define
>> any typed object.
>
> Accompanied by setting the designated type. Initialization is a part of
> construction.
How do you setup compile-time designators in run-time? "designated type"
is a compilation time syntax rule helping translator to distinguish type
of the object and which differs from source code context where used.
Initialization, being executed in run-time, can not be a part of
compile-time syntax. But, perhaps, you mean designators that are variable
(change their values) in run-time?
Perhaps, you tend to define type of the object outside of the memory it
holds. this refers to dynamyc (run-time) type resolution (language
predefined), and consequently - anonymous (unknown, but existing)
predefined types and objects. Do you suppose that well formed and strong
typed language is based on anonynous type (or anyobject) ? Do you mean
java indeed?
The way Ada goes is to minimize run-time execution and memory that hold by
objects, via evaluating them before, e.g. in compile-time.
Also, Ada is a procedural language.
Perhaps you mean some construct which is out of bounds of ada language,
e.g. it is an application feature.
Also, It is not clear why not to return a pointer (access reference) to
the object instead?
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-12 12:54 Ada 2005 puzzle Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-12 15:48 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-12 16:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19 6:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-19 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 2:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-20 7:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 0:04 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-21 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-24 2:38 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-24 4:23 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-24 7:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-25 23:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-26 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-26 13:08 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-26 13:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 9:42 ` AdaMagica
2012-07-27 10:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 11:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-27 13:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28 9:48 ` AdaMagica
2012-07-28 10:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28 16:59 ` AdaMagica
2012-07-28 18:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19 8:04 ` Maciej Sobczak
[not found] ` <juaghb$fv9$1@munin.nbi.dk>
2012-07-20 7:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 17:21 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-21 19:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 19:37 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-21 20:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 20:53 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22 8:00 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22 9:06 ` Vasiliy Molostov [this message]
2012-07-22 9:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 8:09 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-20 8:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 11:30 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-20 12:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 22:46 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-22 8:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22 10:08 ` Florian Weimer
2012-07-22 11:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 0:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-22 9:52 ` Florian Weimer
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