From: "Vasiliy Molostov" <molostoff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ada 2005 puzzle
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 23:37:21 +0400
Date: 2012-07-21T23:37:21+04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.whs94jtoka8ora@aspire.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 18usgh1w2ngg.18qc1w5q89um4.dlg@40tude.net
Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> писал(а) в своём письме Sat,
21 Jul 2012 23:03:31 +0400:
> Initialization is more specific than construction. There can be
> uninitialized objects. But any accessible object is conceptually
> constructed.
>
I am afraid that this concept came from lisp and smalltalk where these
languages declared as functional.
Ada seems procedural, like pascal, and standard refers to initialization,
not construction. Perhaps, this misconception is the purpose for such
things: for any embedded system this construction may be done by
translator/compiler, and in a resulting flash-rom image there is only
initialization with actual values is needed (being minimized and optimized
already). Ada prefers static definitions, and even has a special term for
this job: elaboration.
I doubt that you can construct complex object without elaboration and
initialization of it and its components in ada.
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-12 12:54 Ada 2005 puzzle Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-12 15:48 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-12 16:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19 6:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-19 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 2:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-20 7:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 0:04 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-21 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-24 2:38 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-24 4:23 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-24 7:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-25 23:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-26 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-26 13:08 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-26 13:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 9:42 ` AdaMagica
2012-07-27 10:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 11:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-27 13:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28 9:48 ` AdaMagica
2012-07-28 10:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28 16:59 ` AdaMagica
2012-07-28 18:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19 8:04 ` Maciej Sobczak
[not found] ` <juaghb$fv9$1@munin.nbi.dk>
2012-07-20 7:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 17:21 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-21 19:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 19:37 ` Vasiliy Molostov [this message]
2012-07-21 20:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 20:53 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22 8:00 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22 9:06 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22 9:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 8:09 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-20 8:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 11:30 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-20 12:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 22:46 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-22 8:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22 10:08 ` Florian Weimer
2012-07-22 11:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 0:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-22 9:52 ` Florian Weimer
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