From: "Vasiliy Molostov" <molostoff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Efficient Sequential Access to Arrays
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:01:17 +0400
Date: 2012-07-27T11:01:17+04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.wh3e4gzdka8ora@aspire.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1lqose2aygd4r$.ots4i45o7jnz.dlg@40tude.net
Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> писал(а) в своём письме Fri,
27 Jul 2012 10:28:45 +0400:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Shark8 wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:56:49 PM UTC-6, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Shark8 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:46:04 AM UTC-6, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Some would disagree, but IMO in a well-written Ada program you
>>>>> should never
>>>>> ever need 'Valid. Don't do Unchecked_Conversion with doubtful
>>>>> outcome.
>>>>> Don't use stream attributes for constrained types.
>>>>
>>>> It might not be avoidable though; the presence of 'Valid however does
>>>> let
>>>> you ensure that your [sub]typing assumptions are met.
>>>
>>> These assumptions must be upheld per value construction.
>>
>> Er, yes? Your value-construction procedure, which might be a
>> stream-implementation, could use 'Input to ensure the data is valid, no?
>> Then isn't the 'Read the value-construction?
>
> Neither. If you use stream you should do it properly, i.e. as the
> transport
> layer. The transport is defined in terms of bytes, characters or other
> units. So the only read here might be Character'Read.
no. We might object'read with any object. You are mixing abstraction
layers here. Even you refer to "or other units".
>> Many DBs don't support such range subtyping, so why is it "bad form" to
>> ensure that such values, when read (ie value construction from the
>> database) conform to the proper subtypes. (Though this might be done
>> automatically on assignment from function if it falls outside the
>> 'Range... I'll have to read up on when subtype constraints are applied.)
>
> When DB client does not support type mapping, you should always use the
> DB
> native type, e.g. SQLINTEGER. Ada type must be obtained from that using
> type conversion.
>
> Which should be obvious if we remember that Ada discourages implicit type
> conversions. Why a DB to Ada one should be implicit?
You suppose sqlinterger as property of any db which is wrong.
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2012-07-15 18:40 Efficient Sequential Access to Arrays Keean Schupke
2012-07-15 19:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-15 20:03 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-15 20:56 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-16 11:34 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-07-15 21:05 ` tmoran
2012-07-15 21:08 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-16 1:19 ` tmoran
2012-07-15 21:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-16 7:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-16 10:16 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-16 14:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-16 16:39 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-16 17:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-16 18:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-16 19:12 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-17 6:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-17 6:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-17 8:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-17 7:24 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-16 19:43 ` John B. Matthews
2012-07-16 20:44 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-16 22:23 ` tmoran
2012-07-17 6:40 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-17 9:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-18 8:10 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-18 18:11 ` tmoran
2012-07-19 10:41 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-19 11:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-19 19:58 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-21 8:24 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-21 11:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-21 16:14 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-21 17:09 ` Keean Schupke
[not found] ` <i78m081tccmp078spmsei1l5vnj3k0kbkj@invalid.netcom.com>
2012-07-22 15:50 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-22 5:13 ` Shark8
2012-07-15 21:35 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-07-15 19:52 ` Shark8
2012-07-15 20:16 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-15 21:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-17 18:16 ` Florian Weimer
2012-07-22 10:01 ` robin.vowels
2012-07-30 6:31 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-07-30 7:16 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-30 9:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-30 14:04 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-22 10:09 ` robin.vowels
2012-07-22 16:02 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-22 16:21 ` Florian Weimer
2012-07-22 16:46 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-22 18:41 ` Florian Weimer
2012-07-24 8:21 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-22 17:34 ` Niklas Holsti
2012-07-22 18:21 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-30 14:18 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-07-24 16:00 ` robin.vowels
2012-07-25 7:09 ` Niklas Holsti
2012-07-25 9:03 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-26 0:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-26 8:38 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-26 10:10 ` Brian Drummond
2012-07-26 12:32 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-26 13:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-26 17:40 ` Shark8
2012-07-26 18:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 5:25 ` Shark8
2012-07-27 6:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 7:01 ` Vasiliy Molostov [this message]
2012-07-27 8:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 12:01 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-27 16:49 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-27 19:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28 5:32 ` Shark8
2012-07-28 7:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28 18:32 ` Shark8
[not found] ` <6ov218tnkbqu3vpkuo4t77rd7de0a3aesf@invalid.netcom.com>
2012-07-26 18:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
[not found] ` <86d31898ne39maimbl24knds7rf38qg7vc@invalid.netcom.com>
2012-07-27 6:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 8:21 ` Keean Schupke
2012-07-27 8:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 9:17 ` Keean Schupke
2013-02-25 21:18 ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2012-07-26 13:08 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-26 19:37 ` stefan-lucks
2012-07-26 19:21 ` stefan-lucks
2012-07-31 3:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-26 7:11 ` Markus Schöpflin
2012-07-26 14:47 ` Robin Vowels
2012-07-26 15:18 ` Martin
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