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From: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: Companies Only Offering Ada-95 Compilers
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 17:16:48 +0200
Date: 2012-05-19T17:16:48+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.wej92acgule2fv@douda-yannick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7ukz9ifcqnv8$.1s34hohn9adcu$.dlg@40tude.net

Le Fri, 18 May 2012 23:15:48 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov  
<mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> a écrit:

> On Fri, 18 May 2012 15:52:00 -0500, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/2012 3:35 PM, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>
>>>> This is the new world order of software engineering. After 50 years
>>>> of computer science and programming languages research, the world has
>>>> decided it will be Javascript and HTML5.
>>>
>>> No. Due to opening a new market the technology (rather lack of) is
>>> returning to the point where it was 20-30 years ago. Such retreats  
>>> always
>>> happen when there is no pressure to improve quality or safety.
>>>
>>
>> That is funny you said that. I was just now thinking the same
>> thing as I was looking at a web site that tells which browsers
>> supports which feature of HTML5 and Javascript.
>>
>> The reason is, I remember doing the same thing many many
>> years ago, when I was just learning the new Java and looking
>> to see which operating system supports which features of Java
>> and such.
>>
>> So, the picture has changed from
>>
>>       app         app
>>    +----------+-----------+......
>>    | Java VM  |  Java VM  |
>>    +----------+-----------+.....
>>    |  OS      |   OS      |
>>    +----------+-----------+.....
>>
>> To now, almost 20 years later to become
>>
>>       HTML5/JS app   HTML5/JS app
>>    +--------------+--------------+.....
>>    |  browser 1   |  browser 2   |
>>    +--------------+--------------+.....
>>    |   OS         |    OS        |
>>    +--------------+--------------+.....
>>
>> Well, it is progress I guess. The Java VM was replaced by
>> the browser, and Java is replaced by HTML/Javascript.
>>
>> I can't wait to see what the picture will be 20 years from now :)
>
>          App (distributed)
>    +------+------+
>    |      OS (distributed)
>    +------+------+
>
> Layers above OS were only necessary because of retarded OSes like UNIX  
> and
> Windows. They sealed the toilet's pit. Alas, being not much more hygienic
> (I would say most of them were actually much worse) they required another
> layers above them, and so on.

Lacking things as fundamental as a minimal common and native standard UI  
API. The “that layer over that layer” is often most required for UIs. By  
the way, I still believe the web standards may be a chance in that matter.

-- 
“Syntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.” [1]
“Structured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.” [1]
[1]: Epigrams on Programming — Alan J. — P. Yale University



  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-19 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-17  1:25 Companies Only Offering Ada-95 Compilers Jeffrey Carter
2012-05-18  4:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-18  6:27   ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-05-18 11:11     ` Lucretia
2012-05-18 12:05       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-20  8:12         ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-20  9:15           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-20 10:56           ` Simon Wright
2012-05-24 17:56             ` Simon Wright
2012-05-24 21:58               ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-20 11:30           ` Simon Clubley
2012-05-21  2:24             ` Britt
2012-05-21 12:12               ` Simon Clubley
2012-05-22 12:01             ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-22 23:25               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-24  1:12                 ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-22 16:43             ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-22 23:36               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-23 12:16                 ` Fritz Wuehler
2012-05-25 11:58                   ` Simon Clubley
2012-05-23  1:00               ` Britt
2012-05-24  7:57                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-23 21:44               ` Shark8
2012-05-24  1:14               ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-18 11:57     ` Martin
2012-05-18 13:40     ` Robert A Duff
2012-05-18 18:53       ` Shark8
2012-05-18 22:52         ` Robert A Duff
2012-05-18 23:03           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-18 19:13       ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-05-18 19:43         ` Mike Silva
2012-05-18 20:02           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-18 20:35             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-18 20:52               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-18 21:07                 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-18 21:15                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-19 15:16                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) [this message]
2012-05-21 15:46                 ` NatarovVI
2012-05-19  1:36               ` Shark8
2012-05-19  2:02                 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-19 15:32                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-19  5:07                 ` tmoran
2012-05-19  6:28                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-19 15:23                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-19 13:44             ` Marco
2012-05-21 15:36             ` NatarovVI
2012-06-21 11:28 ` Nicholas Paul Collin Gloucester
2012-06-21 12:05   ` Nicholas Paul Collin Gloucester
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