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From: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 15:37:37 +0200
Date: 2012-05-10T15:37:37+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.wd3hgzp0ule2fv@douda-yannick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2nfobsn64ovj$.yo1ugseoo72.dlg@40tude.net

Le Thu, 10 May 2012 09:13:56 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov  
<mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> a écrit:
>> Not for everything: for when a standard structured serialization is  
>> really
>> better (and that's often the case).
>
> I don't know what "standard structured serialization" is.
May be my English is not so good, sorry :P I meant, standard serialization  
for structured data, structured as a tree, and potentially as a graph, via  
IDs and IDREFs.

> But XML is bad
> for serialization (if persistence meant). It is awful to describe
> structures (because it lacks means to handle dependencies, referential
> semantics, decomposition means, whatever abstraction power, types,  
> semantic
> checks present in any language since FORTRAN IV etc. As a "language" it  
> is
> really retarded.)

That's the role of document type definitions, which can be either DTD (the  
legacy and most widely used solution, which is inherited from the SGML  
era), or XSD (the most standard one along with DTD) or RNG and Schematron.

>> Then, XML does not came alone, it comes with XSLT, XPath, XQuery and
>> XProc,
>
> Which also reveals much about its usability. You don't need any tools to
> handle a *usable* thing.

No? You don't need tool to check Ada source legality?


-- 
“Syntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.” [1]
“Structured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.” [1]
[1]: Epigrams on Programming — Alan J. — P. Yale University



  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-10 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-29 15:22 Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Stephen Leake
2012-04-30  6:06 ` Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-01  3:19   ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-01  6:06     ` Thomas Løcke
2012-05-01  9:56       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-03 15:26       ` J Kimball
2012-05-03 14:26     ` [OT] CSS max-width (Was: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-03 15:52       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-03 22:34         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-03 15:23     ` Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-03 23:25       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-04  1:28         ` BrianG
2012-05-09 11:17         ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-09 12:06           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-09 13:00             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 13:56               ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-09 14:09                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 14:52                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-09 16:33                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-09 16:39                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 16:51                   ` Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-09 17:21                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 19:53                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-10 10:15                         ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-09 19:59                     ` Simon Wright
2012-05-10  1:42                     ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10  7:21                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-10  7:35                         ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-10  9:43                           ` Simon Wright
2012-05-10 10:44                           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-10 13:19                             ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-11 11:49                               ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-11 15:06                                 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-10 15:05                           ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-10 15:42                             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-10 22:15                               ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-11  1:16                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11 10:47                                   ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-11 11:35                                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-12  0:52                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-14 11:03                                       ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-12 10:04                                     ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-14 11:07                                       ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-11 11:47                           ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-11 14:42                             ` Simon Wright
2012-05-12 10:52                               ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-12  0:59                             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10 13:47                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11 11:57                         ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-11 12:55                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11 13:43                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-12  0:46                       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10  0:57                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-10  7:13                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-10 13:37                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) [this message]
2012-05-10 15:02                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-10 15:32                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-10 15:58                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-11  2:23                           ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-10  1:32           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10  1:54           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-11  2:36             ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-12  1:08               ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10 10:11           ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-11  2:07             ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-11  2:44               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11  2:50                 ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-11  7:51                 ` Suggestion for RM HTML formatter extension (Was: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-11 10:03                   ` Martin
2012-05-11 15:32                   ` Suggestion for RM HTML formatter extension Simon Wright
2012-05-11 15:53                     ` Simon Wright
2012-05-11 21:01                       ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-11 21:04                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-11 21:59                     ` Simon Wright
2012-05-12 10:48                       ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-12 12:34                         ` Simon Wright
2012-05-14 11:36                     ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-14 16:20                       ` Simon Wright
2012-05-15  7:02                       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-15  8:54                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-12 10:37                 ` Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Stephen Leake
2012-05-12  1:43               ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-12 10:33               ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-19  3:58               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11 11:59             ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-01 11:51   ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-03 15:03     ` Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-03 21:52       ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-03 22:43         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-04  7:58       ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-05 14:23         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-06 16:13           ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-06 16:27             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-08  0:54             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-03 15:56 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-03 22:40   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-23 20:46 ` Oliver Kellogg
2013-02-24 19:06   ` Stephen Leake
2013-02-25 23:27     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-26  4:05       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-02-26 13:23         ` Robert A Duff
2013-02-26 19:49           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-02-26 22:04           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-04-02 17:50       ` M. Strobel
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