Re: Ada is getting more popular!

["Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>]

Le Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:28:57 +0200, Thomas Løcke <tl@ada-dk.org> a écrit:
> The OSI didn't exist when the term was coined.
>
> And the concept of "open source" existed decades before the OSI.
>
> The OSI is the definitive authority on _their_ brand of open source.

Yes, but the GPL says nothing different about what Colin Paul pointed out.

Ask anyone on any forum if you ever doubt it.

Some two years in the past, I came to a conclusion similar as yours, that  
is, access to source is valuable, so there is a paradox in saying open  
source must be free, because this would mean what is more valuable, values  
less than what is less valuable. Ex. if soft one can sell soft X without  
for whatever price, it makes to sense to say that with source the same  
soft must be given for nothing, because the soft with source has finally  
more value than the soft without source.

On some forum I use to start topics about it, talking about the above, and  
adding “not even this makes no sense, but I would even see good reasons to  
sell the soft with source for a bit more fees than without source”.

Result : big crisis (some near to injuries) all over the place, and people  
shouting “if this is not free, this is not open source, because Richard  
Stallman said so, and all people though this was a very clever idea (they  
love him very for that).

So try to attack the another way, and replied “but why not try to see both  
the price and the open-source characteristic apart ?” I feel indeed, price  
is a trait and open-source is another trait, and based on this (if this  
were not different things, the same word could be used to express both) I  
asked them : what is the most important for you in, say, Linux : “the  
price which is zero, or its open-source trait”. Short talk : impossible to  
get a single answer to this question, all replies was of the form  
“open-source = free, why don't you want to say all every one tell you here  
?”. No way to make them understand these are two different traits  
(technically, these are).

Open-source and free are simply synonymous all over the web and in near to  
all minds.

Nothing to add, because this is simply no possible talks in that area (as  
I experienced multiple times). There is a unique opinion, and that is all.


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