From: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: Discriminants of tagged types
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 22:18:18 +0200
Date: 2010-10-27T22:18:18+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.vk830spfule2fv@garhos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ia9p8t$5ue$1@news.eternal-september.org
Le Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:58:50 +0200, J-P. Rosen <rosen@adalog.fr> a écrit:
> Reminder:
> I1 : Integer; -- Can take all values of type Integer
> I2 : Integer range 1..10; -- Constraint, restricts to value 1..10
>
> with:
> type Rec (D: Disc) is ....
>
> I must declare:
> R1: Rec (1); -- Constraint, restricts to value 1 of discriminant.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice to have a variable that could hold all values of
> type Rec? Naturally, this is written as:
> R2: Rec;
This is to be written as “R2: Rec;” only if there is no way to know what
the discriminant should be. I may lack experiences (which is a never
ending story… (I like this old-movie's song)), so I may be wrong : R2, as
it is a variable, will be assigned sooner or later, and this assignment
will come with discriminant(s). I feel there is a way to infer this
constraint (possibly using nested blocks to ease, although SPARK does not
support it) in may be near to all cases.
If ever R2 is assigned to a value which males it change its constraints,
this isn't any more the same layout, so a bit not the same type. What
about saying this is no more the same object ?
In
procedure Any_Name
is
R1 : Rec (Expression_1);
R2 : Rec (Expression_2);
R : Rec;
begin
R := R1; -- (1)
R := R2; -- (2)
end;
I feel the R of (1) terminates at (2) and at (2) a new R is born. Someone
may argue R is just assigned a new value. I feel there is two R here. But
this is not so much easy to have a clear idea here, as functional
programming aficionados will even argue “I := 1; I := 2;” also create two
different things.
I can easily handle polymorphism in my mind, when it comes with dynamic
binding like with tagged types (see later for more on this). Here, I have
difficulties to see polymorphism, as I see two different objects just
sharing the same storage (like with clumsy optimization).
To me, it is a bit (I say a bit, there is a kind of level here) like doing
:
procedure Any_Name_2
is
Time : Time_Type;
begin
Time := Lunch_Time;
-- Do something with dinner time (ex. adjust
-- Time to get a meaningful lunch time).
-- ...
-- Let us suppose we never have to do
-- computation on Lunch_Time interspersed
-- with computations on Party_Time, so
-- we decided to “save” a variable and
-- use one variable for both
-- ...
Time := Party_Time;
-- Do some computation on party time, idem.
end;
If we are to compute the exact time of lunch and the exact time of party,
I would prefer to use two variables.
When we do “R := R1; R := R2;”, what about checking we are not doing
something similar to the above ?
At least, that is like blurring subtypes. If we had :
procedure Any_Name_3
is
Astronomical_Distance : Distance_Type range 1 .. <big value>;
Every_Day_Distance : Distance_Type range 1 .. <humanized value>;
begin
-- Would want to mix Astronomical_Distance and
-- Every_Day_Distance in a same variable here ?
null;
end;
Something similar : would want a parameter of a procedure, which could
receive either Subtype_1 or Subtype_2 ?
This make sense with dynamic binding and dispatching parameter, because we
have overloaded methods. But here, can we have a method which is
specialized for both ?
When I talk about “methods” here, this can means any sequence of
instructions inside of a method.
TBH, I will have to check if I used this in the past and why (I said all
the above, while I am not sure I really never did it on my own side).
--
Si les chats miaulent et font autant de vocalises bizarres, c’est pas pour
les chiens.
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-27 12:16 Discriminants of tagged types Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-27 12:34 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-10-27 13:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-27 13:52 ` Robert A Duff
2010-10-27 14:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-27 13:44 ` Robert A Duff
2010-10-27 15:06 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-10-27 15:58 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-27 16:35 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2010-10-27 17:58 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-10-27 20:18 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) [this message]
2010-10-27 20:26 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-10-27 22:07 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-27 22:42 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-10-27 15:13 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-27 16:02 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-27 21:13 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-27 21:23 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-10-28 8:38 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-27 21:25 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2010-10-28 7:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-28 8:50 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-28 10:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-28 17:48 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-29 18:59 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2010-10-30 21:05 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-30 21:21 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2010-10-30 22:01 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 16:20 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-31 17:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 18:36 ` Shark8
2010-10-31 21:06 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-11-01 0:44 ` Shark8
2010-11-01 9:41 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-27 16:06 ` Robert A Duff
2010-10-27 16:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-27 21:05 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-28 0:35 ` Robert A Duff
2010-10-28 8:55 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-10-27 21:28 ` Simon Wright
2010-10-27 13:54 ` J-P. Rosen
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