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From: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: Lost in translation (with SPARK user rules)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:28:58 +0200
Date: 2010-05-26T21:28:58+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.vdbu2ksqxmjfy8@garhos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: siotu5lyiw08.u5c5kcrly3i2$.dlg@40tude.net

Le Wed, 26 May 2010 16:28:20 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov  
<mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> a écrit:
> Yes. I think this could be a direction in which Ada should evolve. It
> should have a modular part equivalent to SPARK, which can be used with
> certain compilation units. So that the programmer could choose the level  
> of
> safety he is ready to invest into.

Please, tell more : you mean a kind of pragma or compiler option like the  
ones there is for runtime checks ?

By the way, that's an opportunity for two other ideas : why not integrate  
the SPARK language definition in the Ada standard ? We may have wordings  
in the Ada reference or the annotated reference, stating that is and that  
is allowed or disallowed with SPARK. And second thing, related to this  
latter : why not an ACAT tests suit targeting SPARK/Ada compilation  
capabilities beside of full Ada ? Actually, how can you test an compiler  
compliance with SPARK ? I feel you can do it only for full Ada.

> It would be nice to be able to start the project at some middle level (a
> bit higher than of present Ada, but lower than SPARK), and then gradually
> adjust it, as the project evolves.
Like ensuring it is written in a valid SPARK syntax before we know if this  
part will really be semantically checked or not ?

> Another 2 cents.
Re-no, re-was re-valuable


-- 
There is even better than a pragma Assert: a SPARK --# check.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-26 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-26 10:09 Lost in translation (with SPARK user rules) Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 10:38 ` Phil Thornley
2010-05-26 10:57   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 14:15     ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-26 14:28       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-26 19:28         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) [this message]
2010-05-26 20:14           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-26 21:14             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 21:15               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 22:01             ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-27 12:32               ` Mark Lorenzen
2010-05-27 18:34               ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-27 19:18                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-28  9:39                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-28 11:57                 ` SPARK and testing. Was: " Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-28 12:59                   ` SPARK and testing Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-28 23:06                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 19:16       ` Lost in translation (with SPARK user rules) Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 19:32         ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-26 20:56           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 22:06           ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-27 18:39             ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-26 22:17         ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-27 10:11       ` Sockets package in SPARK (Was: Lost in translation (with SPARK user rules)) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2010-05-27 18:41         ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-27 19:20           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-28  7:43             ` Sockets package in SPARK Jacob Sparre Andersen
2010-05-27  8:13     ` Lost in translation (with SPARK user rules) Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 10:55       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 11:32         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 11:41           ` Phil Thornley
2010-05-27 12:42             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 12:22         ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-27 11:37           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 11:57           ` Phil Thornley
2010-05-27 12:36             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 13:38               ` Phil Thornley
2010-06-03  2:44                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 19:53 ` Warren
2010-05-29 23:03 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-30  6:55   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-30  9:30     ` Phil Thornley
2010-05-30  9:46       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-30  9:26   ` Phil Thornley
2010-05-30  9:57     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-01  5:42 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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