From: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: Improving the first contact with Ada
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:35:31 +0200
Date: 2010-06-14T00:35:31+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.vd9fpicpule2fv@garhos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87typ6ocf4.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org
Le Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:22:39 +0200, Ludovic Brenta
<ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org> a écrit:
>> Sorry, I know Ada is about content and the image it radiates,
>> esthetically, maybe the least of your concern (I don't point you
>> directly Ludovic) but the web site of ADAIC is a time machine to
>> ~1993. I came across that site often and I left it as many times
>> because I though this was an obsolete site!
>>
>> Seriously, it needs refreshing!
>
> I agree. Maybe that's the problem with Ada people: they spend too much
> time writing quality software and not enough doing marketing. I try to
> do my part in the technical marketing department but I'm not a webmaster
> or a graphics designer. I think you'd get the same kind of anwser from
> most people on this newsgroup.
If may give my opinion.
1) Most of time, people who says “software designers are poor graphic
designers”, are themselves poor software designer. They stop on graphic
design, because this is the sole thing whose quality they are able to
evaluate (does not only applies to Ada, this also applies with web
applications written in JavaScript and the like).
2) People seeking for documentation, should be aware that, when seeking
for documentation, documentation should come first! Not graphical design!
What can you expect from someones who run away from a graphical design and
prefer to go elsewhere, with may be a better graphical design, but lower
quality documentation. Look at Jean Pierre Rosen's AdaControl : may some
others sites has a better graphical design than his one, but none has such
an application as AdaControl. A choice must be made and every one is
responsible for his/her choice.
3) AdaIC has a graphical identity, if it change it, pretty sure many body
gonna ask themselves what happened (“is it still the same AdaIC ?”)
4) AdaIC design is not so bad, it is even good (well balanced and
constant). Old fashioned ? What was nice 15 years ago is ugly now ? So
people 15 years ago all had bad taste ? Something is silly in this
assertion, and even some famous web designers agree that this is a silly
point of view (some lough out loud when they here about so called “Web 2.0
graphical style”).
5) If you want to differentiate from others, don't copy everyones else
graphical identity, get yours.
Hope I did no went too much off-topic.
--
There is even better than a pragma Assert: a SPARK --# check.
--# check C and WhoKnowWhat and YouKnowWho;
--# assert Ada;
-- i.e. forget about previous premises which leads to conclusion
-- and start with new conclusion as premise.
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2010-05-17 3:29 GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project zeta_no
2010-05-18 7:53 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 13:40 ` zeta_no
2010-05-18 14:39 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19 9:12 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-19 9:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19 9:09 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 12:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-18 14:12 ` zeta_no
2010-05-18 14:36 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19 9:16 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-19 9:22 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-20 10:39 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-20 12:10 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-24 17:04 ` zeta_no
2010-05-24 21:42 ` zeta_no
2010-05-24 22:45 ` Improving the first contact with Ada (was: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project) Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 17:26 ` zeta_no
2010-06-13 19:25 ` Improving the first contact with Ada Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 19:54 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-13 20:35 ` zeta_no
2010-06-13 21:22 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 22:35 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) [this message]
2010-06-14 8:03 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-14 8:47 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2010-06-14 9:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 9:33 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-15 6:48 ` Stephen Leake
2010-06-14 10:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 12:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 13:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 14:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 15:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 16:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 20:34 ` Warren
2010-06-14 9:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-29 2:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-14 8:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-06 20:15 ` jonathan
2010-07-06 12:29 ` Improving the first contact with Ada (was: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project) Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2010-07-06 12:57 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-07-06 13:36 ` Improving the first contact with Ada Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-25 2:26 ` GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project Stephen Leake
2010-06-13 20:10 ` zeta_no
2010-06-14 20:55 ` Warren
2010-06-15 13:45 ` zeta_no
2010-06-15 15:15 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-15 17:05 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-25 2:15 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 22:38 ` Ludovic Brenta
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