From: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: SPARK
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 03:48:53 +0200
Date: 2010-05-16T03:48:53+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.vcrzbrzpule2fv@garhos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.vcrqy7isule2fv@garhos
Le Sun, 16 May 2010 00:48:33 +0200, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
<yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> a écrit:
> Ok, from some branch of this thread, you may have learned a question
> have raised about which one of “assert” or “check” should be used to
> write in-text proofs where the Simplifier could not prove it it/his/her
> self.
>
> The answer to this is so much important that I give the answer to it
> from the root of this thread, instead of from the latter leaf.
>
> So it is : Use Check, not Assert.
> [...]
Part 6 of Phil's document says:
> For both check and assert, there is a VC generated that has
> the current program state as hypotheses and the <Boolean
> expression> as the conclusion.
I've meet something different (see previous messages in this thread), or
at least, the current state is not represented with the same set of
hypotheses.
> For code that does not contain any loops, there is
> (in principle) never any need for either of these
> annotations since they cannot make unprovable VCs
> into provable VCs.
Sorry, I can't buy that at all. I could make VCs provable, and this was
otherwise not provable by the simplifier, using Check clauses.
Sorry friend, I'm not dreaming : this really happened.
--
There is even better than a pragma Assert: a SPARK --# check.
Wanted: if you know about some though in the area of comparisons between
SPARK and VDM, please, let me know. Will enjoy to talk with you about it.
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2010-05-12 22:55 SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 0:52 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 3:06 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 9:28 ` SPARK stefan-lucks
2010-05-13 16:48 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 13:09 ` SPARK Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-14 22:55 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 4:00 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 16:54 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 17:15 ` SPARK Rod Chapman
2010-05-13 19:43 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 20:05 ` SPARK Rod Chapman
2010-05-13 21:43 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 14:47 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 1:20 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 4:15 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 8:17 ` SPARK Phil Thornley
2010-05-14 9:32 ` SPARK Rod Chapman
2010-05-14 14:20 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 3:07 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 3:26 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 8:11 ` SPARK Phil Thornley
2010-05-14 14:28 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 21:45 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 16:41 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 18:00 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 18:14 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 19:08 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 20:23 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-16 18:13 ` SPARK Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-17 0:59 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-16 18:17 ` SPARK Phil Thornley
2010-05-17 1:24 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 18:43 ` SPARK Phil Clayton
2010-05-15 19:12 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 21:02 ` SPARK Phil Clayton
2010-05-15 22:48 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-16 1:48 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) [this message]
2010-05-16 1:53 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-16 5:28 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-18 18:01 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-19 8:09 ` SPARK Phil Thornley
2010-05-19 20:38 ` SPARK Simon Wright
2010-05-19 21:27 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-20 6:21 ` SPARK Simon Wright
2010-05-20 6:58 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-20 21:51 ` SPARK Simon Wright
2010-05-19 21:35 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-06-10 9:47 SPARK Robert Matthews
2004-08-18 23:46 timeouts Brian May
2004-08-19 3:40 ` timeouts Steve
2004-08-22 4:18 ` timeouts Brian May
2004-08-22 12:54 ` timeouts Jeff C,
2004-08-26 1:28 ` timeouts Brian May
2004-08-26 13:34 ` timeouts Steve
2004-08-26 14:02 ` timeouts Georg Bauhaus
2004-08-26 23:03 ` SPARK Brian May
2004-08-27 10:11 ` SPARK Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-08 9:46 SPARK Soeren.Henssel-Rasmussen
2001-08-08 20:04 ` SPARK McDoobie
2001-08-06 16:49 SPARK programmer
2001-08-07 7:04 ` SPARK Hambut
2001-08-07 7:18 ` SPARK Hambut
2001-08-07 8:37 ` SPARK Peter Amey
2001-08-07 14:42 ` SPARK McDoobie
2001-08-09 12:36 ` SPARK Peter Amey
2001-08-14 3:14 ` SPARK Prof Karl Kleine
2001-08-14 10:25 ` SPARK Rod Chapman
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