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From: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: SPARK
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 03:48:53 +0200
Date: 2010-05-16T03:48:53+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.vcrzbrzpule2fv@garhos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.vcrqy7isule2fv@garhos

Le Sun, 16 May 2010 00:48:33 +0200, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)  
<yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> a écrit:

> Ok, from some branch of this thread, you may have learned a question  
> have raised about which one of “assert” or “check” should be used to  
> write in-text proofs where the Simplifier could not prove it it/his/her  
> self.
>
> The answer to this is so much important that I give the answer to it  
> from the root of this thread, instead of from the latter leaf.
>
> So it is : Use Check, not Assert.
> [...]

Part 6 of Phil's document says:

> For both check and assert, there is a VC generated that has
> the current program state as hypotheses and the <Boolean
> expression> as the conclusion.
I've meet something different (see previous messages in this thread), or  
at least, the current state is not represented with the same set of  
hypotheses.


> For code that does not contain any loops, there is
> (in principle) never any need for either of these
> annotations since they cannot make unprovable VCs
> into provable VCs.
Sorry, I can't buy that at all. I could make VCs provable, and this was  
otherwise not provable by the simplifier, using Check clauses.

Sorry friend, I'm not dreaming : this really happened.

-- 
There is even better than a pragma Assert: a SPARK --# check.

Wanted: if you know about some though in the area of comparisons between  
SPARK and VDM, please, let me know. Will enjoy to talk with you about it.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-16  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-12 22:55 SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13  0:52 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13  3:06 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13  9:28   ` SPARK stefan-lucks
2010-05-13 16:48     ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 13:09       ` SPARK Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-14 22:55   ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13  4:00 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 16:54 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 17:15   ` SPARK Rod Chapman
2010-05-13 19:43     ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 20:05       ` SPARK Rod Chapman
2010-05-13 21:43         ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 14:47         ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14  1:20 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14  4:15   ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14  8:17     ` SPARK Phil Thornley
2010-05-14  9:32       ` SPARK Rod Chapman
2010-05-14 14:20       ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14  3:07 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14  3:26   ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14  8:11   ` SPARK Phil Thornley
2010-05-14 14:28     ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-14 21:45 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 16:41 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 18:00   ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 18:14   ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 19:08     ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 20:23       ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-16 18:13         ` SPARK Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-17  0:59           ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-16 18:17         ` SPARK Phil Thornley
2010-05-17  1:24           ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 18:43   ` SPARK Phil Clayton
2010-05-15 19:12     ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-15 21:02       ` SPARK Phil Clayton
2010-05-15 22:48 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-16  1:48   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) [this message]
2010-05-16  1:53     ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-16  5:28 ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-18 18:01   ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-19  8:09     ` SPARK Phil Thornley
2010-05-19 20:38       ` SPARK Simon Wright
2010-05-19 21:27         ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-20  6:21           ` SPARK Simon Wright
2010-05-20  6:58             ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-20 21:51               ` SPARK Simon Wright
2010-05-19 21:35       ` SPARK Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-06-10  9:47 SPARK Robert Matthews
2004-08-18 23:46 timeouts Brian May
2004-08-19  3:40 ` timeouts Steve
2004-08-22  4:18   ` timeouts Brian May
2004-08-22 12:54     ` timeouts Jeff C,
2004-08-26  1:28       ` timeouts Brian May
2004-08-26 13:34         ` timeouts Steve
2004-08-26 14:02           ` timeouts Georg Bauhaus
2004-08-26 23:03             ` SPARK Brian May
2004-08-27 10:11               ` SPARK Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-08  9:46 SPARK Soeren.Henssel-Rasmussen
2001-08-08 20:04 ` SPARK McDoobie
2001-08-06 16:49 SPARK programmer
2001-08-07  7:04 ` SPARK Hambut
2001-08-07  7:18 ` SPARK Hambut
2001-08-07  8:37 ` SPARK Peter Amey
2001-08-07 14:42   ` SPARK McDoobie
2001-08-09 12:36   ` SPARK Peter Amey
2001-08-14  3:14   ` SPARK Prof Karl Kleine
2001-08-14 10:25     ` SPARK Rod Chapman
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