From: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: GNAT packages in Linux distributions
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 23:28:26 +0200
Date: 2010-05-09T23:28:26+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.vcgi9oqzule2fv@garhos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: t8liq7w6ffnm$.19yq5hkq6tdto$.dlg@40tude.net
Le Sun, 09 May 2010 21:36:58 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov
<mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> a écrit:
> Hmm, that would make sense only for bugs related to the compiler
> environment, packaging etc. If the bug is a compiler problem, there is no
> chance it can be fixed unless somebody is working on the compiler itself.
> For example, there is a bug in assignment of controlled objects. It
> crashes
I was to report some bugs as well about GNAT (there was some about
protected types, that's why your words make me though about it, however,
there some others as well), and gave up to send bug reports when I've
learned from people using the Pro version those bugs were already fixed
for long.
Yes, it seems obvious the differences between GNAT Pro and GNAT GPL are
not only a matter of support (or lack of support) or of license
(commercial application allowed vs disallowed) : it seems these are two
different compilers.
> So, when (if) GNAT GPL 2010 come, nothing will sufficiently change for
> FSF?
> That is very disappointing. I hoped to jump off the GPL track (not
> because
> of the license issue).
That's why I like to hear Randy talking about its compiler and that's why
I oftenly ask questions about this and that related to Ada compilers in
the large. I would like to switch to another one... unfortunately, being
jobless for too long, even something as cheap as Janus Ada Compiler is not
accessible to me (and does not target BSD or UNIX-like too, that's another
matter).
I would not want to talk about things I'm not aware of, any way, what I am
thinking about it (just personal beliefs) : obviously, an Ada compiler is
lot of work, and anybody work better when receiving something in return
which makes his/her life easier (what ever could say GPL advocates about
it). I believe the GPL version is just far to be a priority for AdaCore
(as long as I refer to some bugs I have talked about and for which I get
an answer of the form “Hey, this is fixed for long in GNAT Pro”).
AdaCore (or its ancestor) was initially mandated (is that the good word ?)
to create a GPL Ada 95 compiler based on the GCC compiler chain (this was
part of the requirements), to help ensure some good place for the Ada
technology, to promote the language and its philosophy. This contract was
largely fulfilled by AdaCore or its ancestor and its obligations about it
has ended. AdaCore has no obligations at all concerning Ada 2005 nor any
future Ada 2015 (or 2012... I don't know).
Please, note the above are personal beliefs.
P.S. What you are pointing about is not Fedora or UNIX-like specific, this
is the same with the Windows version, this is mostly specific to the GPL
version.
P.P.S. I wonder why, being an owner of a GNAT Pro license, you need the
GPL version ? You will get just less with the GPL version.
--
No-no, this isn't an oops ...or I hope (TM) - Don't blame me... I'm just
not lucky
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2010-05-09 17:40 GNAT packages in Linux distributions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-09 18:16 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-09 19:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-09 21:26 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-09 21:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-10 1:20 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-10 1:26 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-25 20:40 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-10 9:41 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-10 9:46 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-10 14:29 ` sjw
2010-05-11 7:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-11 9:33 ` sjw
2010-05-10 18:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-09 21:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) [this message]
2010-05-09 21:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-09 22:44 ` Simon Wright
2010-05-10 7:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-10 8:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-10 18:45 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-10 21:00 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-10 22:17 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 6:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-11 7:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 8:06 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 15:46 ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-11 16:05 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 16:09 ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-11 16:09 ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-11 17:08 ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-11 16:39 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 19:45 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 23:44 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-12 12:12 ` Mark Lorenzen
2010-05-12 14:55 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 17:35 ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-11 18:06 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 16:23 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 16:41 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-05-11 16:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 19:21 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-12 8:41 ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-12 14:52 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-12 15:59 ` Phil Thornley
2010-05-12 16:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-13 8:05 ` Phil Thornley
2010-05-12 15:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-12 16:06 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-12 17:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-12 18:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-12 18:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-12 18:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-12 21:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-13 2:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-13 8:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-14 23:45 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-15 9:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-15 18:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-15 20:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-15 0:17 ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-15 9:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-12 18:15 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-25 20:45 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-26 8:38 ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-26 8:01 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 11:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 13:02 ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-26 12:22 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 12:47 ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-27 12:26 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 13:06 ` (see below)
2010-05-27 12:41 ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-27 12:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 15:21 ` (see below)
2010-06-03 3:16 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-03 10:42 ` Brian Drummond
2010-06-03 21:14 ` (see below)
2010-06-03 22:00 ` Britt Snodgrass
2010-06-03 22:29 ` (see below)
2010-06-03 13:49 ` (see below)
2010-06-04 13:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-04 13:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-04 14:24 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-04 17:34 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-04 15:29 ` (see below)
2010-05-12 18:10 ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-12 17:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-13 0:37 ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-13 9:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-13 0:33 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-10 14:15 ` GNAT Pro license (was: " Peter Hermann
2010-05-10 1:40 ` Björn Persson
2010-05-10 2:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-10 7:01 ` Ludovic Brenta
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