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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Generators/coroutines in future Ada?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:18:20 +0200
Date: 2017-07-13T10:18:20+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ok7acc$16j9$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ok61p7$fcn$1@dont-email.me

On 12/07/2017 22:49, G.B. wrote:

> Assume that the language has special generator syntax, e.g.:
> 
>     while X of Stack with 0 < X and X < 10 loop
> 
> This is to mean that generating a value happens once per iteration,
> binding the result to the X before *of* and then evaluating the
> condition. Stack being a Stateful, it has the prim ops needed.

OK, but this is not generator syntax. It is the problem of using some 
computed value twice. Yes we need a syntax for that. Far more important 
than the loop-generator case are cases like:

"Generator-new":

    X := new S'Class;
    declare
       Object : S'Class renames S'Class (X.all);
    begin
       ...
    end;

"Generator-return":

    like above, create a more specific instance returning it as a more 
generic class-wide.

"generator-test":

    if X in T'Class then
       declare
          Object : T'Class renames T'Class (X);
       begin
          ...
       end;

> If X, still a generator, were instead to be repeatedly evaluated,
> as in
> 
>     while 0 < X and X < 10 loop
> 
> then it isn't clear how many values will be generated if,
> under the hood, the expression entails evaluating
> 
>      0 <Stack.Pop and Stack.Pop < 10.

"Generator-test" above.

> Note that this argument emphasizes the use of a generator,
> not the construct that furnishes it.

I see why co-routines are useful when dressed as tasks. I see great use 
in syntax constructs which might reduce above cases into single liners. 
I see no use in stateful functions, only damage.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de


  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-13  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-09 20:19 Generators/coroutines in future Ada? Victor Porton
2017-07-09 21:28 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-07-09 23:56   ` Victor Porton
2017-07-10  7:33   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-10 13:38 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-10 17:01   ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-10 21:24     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12 17:09       ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-12 17:39         ` Victor Porton
2017-07-13  6:35           ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-11  9:42   ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 12:52     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 13:01       ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 13:26         ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 16:04           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-07-11 16:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 19:52             ` Pascal Obry
2017-07-11 20:18               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 18:36           ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 19:22             ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 20:25               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 23:19                 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12  4:54                   ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-12 13:07                     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12 13:38                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  5:35                   ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-12  7:27                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12 22:47                     ` Shark8
2017-07-16 13:11                       ` Robert Eachus
2017-07-17 23:54                       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-18  7:38                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  7:19                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  6:35                 ` G.B.
2017-07-12  7:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12 20:49                     ` G.B.
2017-07-13  8:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2017-07-12 17:34           ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-11 19:27         ` Simon Wright
2017-07-12  5:42     ` darkestkhan
2017-07-12  8:57     ` Maciej Sobczak
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