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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Generators/coroutines in future Ada?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:34:02 +0200
Date: 2017-07-12T09:34:02+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ok4jda$1dud$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ok4fne$j41$1@dont-email.me

On 12/07/2017 08:35, G.B. wrote:
> On 11.07.17 22:25, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On 2017-07-11 21:22, J-P. Rosen wrote:
>>> Le 11/07/2017 à 20:36, Victor Porton a écrit :
>>>> This state also includes the point of execution (like "We are in the 
>>>> second
>>>> loop in its second operator.")
>>>>
>>>>> This can easily be achieved with a function within a package, where 
>>>>> the
>>>>> package serves to protect and hide the function's state.
>>>> Ada currently has no support to save such (point of execution) states.
>>> It has. Make your generator a task, and have an accept when the data is
>>> ready, which can be nested as deep as you want in any construct.
>>>
>>> A task is a perfect abstraction for a thread of control that maintains
>>> its own execution state!
>>
>> Except that no control is required.
>>
>> I don't understand what is wrong with:
>>
>>    type Stateful is limited private;
>>    function Generate (X : not null access Stateful) return Things;
> 
> Arguably, first, a "function" lacks query/command separation:
> 
>     type Stateful is limited interface;
>     function Current (x : Stateful) return Thing;  -- (*)
>     procedure Next (x : in out Stateful);

I don't understand this example. Why Next cannot be a part of Current? 
Example:

    X := Stack.Pop;

> Not surprisingly, I think, Icon's generators are available to
> use in while-loops that look perfectly ordinary. If Ada requires
> generators to be more explicit:
> 
>     G     : Stateful := Strings.Find
>                (Subject => "...",
>                Pattern => "___");
> 
>     while X of G with condition (X) loop    -- not Ada
>        ...
>     end loop;
> 
> "while ... of ... with" then requires G to be a Stateful.
> Presence of special syntax is, as previously, HOL.

I don't understand this example. If you mean multiple return values 
(tuples), yes Ada should have them, but that is unrelated to stefulness.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-12  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-09 20:19 Generators/coroutines in future Ada? Victor Porton
2017-07-09 21:28 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-07-09 23:56   ` Victor Porton
2017-07-10  7:33   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-10 13:38 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-10 17:01   ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-10 21:24     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12 17:09       ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-12 17:39         ` Victor Porton
2017-07-13  6:35           ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-11  9:42   ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 12:52     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 13:01       ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 13:26         ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 16:04           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-07-11 16:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 19:52             ` Pascal Obry
2017-07-11 20:18               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 18:36           ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 19:22             ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 20:25               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 23:19                 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12  4:54                   ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-12 13:07                     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12 13:38                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  5:35                   ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-12  7:27                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12 22:47                     ` Shark8
2017-07-16 13:11                       ` Robert Eachus
2017-07-17 23:54                       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-18  7:38                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  7:19                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  6:35                 ` G.B.
2017-07-12  7:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2017-07-12 20:49                     ` G.B.
2017-07-13  8:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12 17:34           ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-11 19:27         ` Simon Wright
2017-07-12  5:42     ` darkestkhan
2017-07-12  8:57     ` Maciej Sobczak
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