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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Generators/coroutines in future Ada?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:27:28 +0200
Date: 2017-07-12T09:27:28+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ok4j10$1da7$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ok4cel$ph$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk

On 12/07/2017 07:35, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Victor Porton" <porton@narod.ru> wrote in message
> news:ok3meg$fg6$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>
> ....
>>>> A task is a perfect abstraction for a thread of control that maintains
>>>> its own execution state!
>>>
>>> Except that no control is required.
>>>
>>> I don't understand what is wrong with:
>>>
>>>      type Stateful is limited private;
>>>      function Generate (X : not null access Stateful) return Things;
>>
>> The thing "wrong" with this, is that it is sometimes hard to implement
>> Generate(). In Python this can be done in an easier way by using
>> generators
>> (Python's "yield" keywords).
> 
> The thing "wrong" with this is that it forces sequential execution.

Some algorithms, protocols in particular, are sufficiently easier and 
clearer to implement in a sequential manner: fetch data, wait, react, 
repeat. Ada tasks is an ideal abstraction for this except for being too 
heavy weight for certain applications.

> The coming problem with "classic" programming languages like Ada is that
> they don't map well to architectures with a lot of parallelism.

Rather the opposite. Parallel architectures do not map well to any 
reasonable programming language. The thing is hard no matter how you 
approach it.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-12  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-09 20:19 Generators/coroutines in future Ada? Victor Porton
2017-07-09 21:28 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-07-09 23:56   ` Victor Porton
2017-07-10  7:33   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-10 13:38 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-10 17:01   ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-10 21:24     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12 17:09       ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-12 17:39         ` Victor Porton
2017-07-13  6:35           ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-11  9:42   ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 12:52     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 13:01       ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 13:26         ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 16:04           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-07-11 16:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 19:52             ` Pascal Obry
2017-07-11 20:18               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 18:36           ` Victor Porton
2017-07-11 19:22             ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-11 20:25               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-11 23:19                 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12  4:54                   ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-12 13:07                     ` Victor Porton
2017-07-12 13:38                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  5:35                   ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-12  7:27                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2017-07-12 22:47                     ` Shark8
2017-07-16 13:11                       ` Robert Eachus
2017-07-17 23:54                       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-18  7:38                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  7:19                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12  6:35                 ` G.B.
2017-07-12  7:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12 20:49                     ` G.B.
2017-07-13  8:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-12 17:34           ` Paul Rubin
2017-07-11 19:27         ` Simon Wright
2017-07-12  5:42     ` darkestkhan
2017-07-12  8:57     ` Maciej Sobczak
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