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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Portable memory barrier?
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 22:27:01 +0200
Date: 2017-05-09T22:27:01+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <oet8mj$13ri$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: oet6ol$5gg$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk

On 2017-05-09 21:53, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
>> Yet the question stands. In particular, which Ada primitives may ensure
>> safe implementations of lock-free structures when no protected objects
>> used.
>
> Atomic objects make such a guarentee. Nothing else does (well, ignoring
> protected objects, of course, since you excluded them). End of story.

Glad to hear that!

> (Except that compilers might not implement it right, as I noted before.)

So far I didn't experience problems with my implementations of lock-free 
FIFO and blackboard compiled with GNAT for x86 and ARM7.

You are right noting that this is not testable (OK, one could fully test 
it under an emulator in simulated time, but who tests the emulator?).

Yet, surprisingly, on real examples the error shows itself pretty 
quickly. The background is that since GNAT does not support pragma 
Atomic for 64-bit integers on 32-bit machines I have the implementation 
varying, selected by GNAT project scenario. E.g. GCC built-in operations 
are used instead of pragma Atomic. When the selected scenario is wrong 
the error shows itself almost instantly.

So the conclusion is that GNAT seems OK.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de


  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-09 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-06  2:23 Portable memory barrier? Jere
2017-05-06  8:47 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-05-06 14:17   ` Jere
2017-05-06 19:08     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-05-06 19:26     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-05-06 19:41     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-05-06 20:42       ` Niklas Holsti
2017-05-09 19:49     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-09 22:07       ` Jere
2017-05-11  1:14         ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-10 18:28       ` Shark8
2017-05-11  1:17         ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-11 16:23           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-05-07 20:18 ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-08  7:45   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-08 15:56     ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-08 16:22       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-08 18:39         ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-08 19:18         ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-08 21:09           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-08 23:24             ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-09  0:30               ` Jere
2017-05-09  4:02                 ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-09  4:32                 ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-09  4:44                   ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-09 22:26                   ` Jere
2017-05-09 20:01                 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-09 19:57               ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-10  0:51                 ` Jere
2017-05-10  5:25                   ` J-P. Rosen
2017-05-10 22:56                     ` Jere
2017-05-11  7:36                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-13 20:25                         ` Jere
2017-05-10  7:13                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-10 16:45                     ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-10 17:28                       ` Simon Wright
2017-05-10 23:21                     ` Jere
2017-05-11  0:47                       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-13 20:11                         ` Jere
2017-05-15 22:33                           ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-10 23:30                     ` Jere
2017-05-11  0:38                     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-10 16:38                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-05-10 23:40                     ` Jere
2017-05-10 16:19                 ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-11  1:02                   ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-11  1:51                     ` Robert Eachus
2017-05-15 22:45                       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-08 20:29         ` Niklas Holsti
2017-05-08 21:09           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-09  4:34             ` Niklas Holsti
2017-05-09  6:16               ` Niklas Holsti
2017-05-09  8:34                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-09 20:18                 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-09 20:10           ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-09  0:05         ` Jere
2017-05-09  8:26           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-09 19:53         ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-09 20:27           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2017-05-11  0:35             ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-11  8:24               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-15 22:53                 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-18 17:44                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-05-18 21:01                     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-05-19  7:54                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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