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From: "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org>
Subject: Re: C# new features (v.7)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 11:13:24 -0600
Date: 2016-12-17T11:13:24-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <o33rnt$13e6$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 877f6y3lzo.fsf@nightsong.com

On 12/17/2016 4:09 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:

>
> Younger programmers (those who didn't grow up dealing with old slow
> machines with little memory) generally use lower performance but more
> convenient languages rather than C, Ada, etc.  They're protected from
> integer overflow by bignums, memory errors by bounds checking,
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> alloc/free errors by garbage collection, etc.


Which one of these so called "modern" and "fun" languages
that Younger programmers use has bounds checking built in?

Can one even declare a variable in these languages with restricted
bounds?  May be I am misunderstanding the context you are thinking
of here.

I thought Ada was unique in this area, one of the few language
if not only one.

>Lots of very good
> developers shipping successful products have never programmed in
> anything but Javascript or Python or Ruby.  Ada and C are niche
> languages for embedded control and C++ is for when performance requires
> it (except now Go and Rust are cutting in on that niche too).
>
> As others have said, C++ has also improved a lot lately, with more
> improvements coming.
>

I would not touch c++ not matter how good it becomes. Such a
complex language. Computer languages should be simple
to understand. Ada also has got too complex from its
original1983 version.

We all should go back to using Turbo Pascal. That was a simple,
an easy to understand and a fun language to program in :)

--Nasser


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-17 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-14 13:29 C# new features (v.7) gautier_niouzes
2016-12-14 16:59 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2016-12-14 19:28   ` Shark8
2016-12-14 19:52   ` Wesley Pan
2016-12-14 23:01     ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-16 10:03       ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-16 20:19         ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-15 14:19     ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2016-12-16  8:34     ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-17 10:09       ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-17 10:51         ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-17 11:36         ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-17 17:13         ` Nasser M. Abbasi [this message]
2016-12-17 17:52           ` Björn Lundin
2016-12-17 20:45           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2016-12-17 21:56           ` Robert A Duff
2016-12-17 22:56             ` Simon Clubley
2017-02-05  0:37       ` Scott Loyd
2017-02-05  1:07         ` Luke A. Guest
2017-02-05 10:41         ` Lucretia
2017-02-05 16:12           ` Scott Loyd
2017-02-05 17:25             ` Lucretia
2016-12-16  7:49   ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-14 19:28 ` Shark8
2016-12-15  0:13   ` gautier_niouzes
2016-12-16  7:52     ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-16 10:08     ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-16 13:04       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2016-12-15 12:49   ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2016-12-16  7:55     ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-16 12:43       ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2016-12-16 20:14         ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-17  0:01           ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2016-12-16  7:47 ` Hadrien Grasland
2017-01-31  1:29 ` brian catlin
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