From: "Alejandro R. Mosteo" <alejandro@mosteo.com>
Subject: Re: C# new features (v.7)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 01:01:57 +0100
Date: 2016-12-17T01:01:57+01:00 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <72810892-0614-44aa-803b-2f76b7d36958@googlegroups.com>
On 16/12/16 21:14, Hadrien Grasland wrote:
> Le vendredi 16 décembre 2016 13:43:26 UTC+1, Alejandro R. Mosteo a écrit :
>> On 16/12/16 08:55, Hadrien Grasland wrote:
>>> Le jeudi 15 décembre 2016 13:49:20 UTC+1, Alejandro R. Mosteo a écrit :
>>>> And tasking? Every time I see C++ people fumbling with low-level
>>>> semaphores I want to cry. No language (that I know) comes even near Ada
>>>> tasks + protected combo. No wonder multithreading is sold as some kind
>>>> of miracle when some program uses it properly.
>>>
>>> To be fair, Ada has no equivalent to C++'s portable atomics either. C++ these days is mostly marketed as a low-level infrastructure to build performance-critical libraries in, whereas Ada is more designed like a high-level end-user solution, and these diverging design goals lead to different design choices.
>>
>> Yep, C++ is adding tons of useful thing to the standard libs after the
>> 11/14 iterations. Actually, with the newest versions you can get rid of
>> many bad practices, I'd say it's even very confy to write in. The heavy
>> templating and crypotsyntax however still scare me the moment I have to
>> check library code.
>
> It is quite frustrating, though, how much the C++ commitee favors super-guru features catering to the last 5% performance optimization, such as constexprs, over basic usability improvements like concepts (C++ finally coming close to understanding Ada 83 generics), modules (C++ compilation finally entering the 21st century), the concurrency TS (finally admitting that C++11 futures were a total clusterfsck), ranges (finally freeing people from the repetitive and unreadable mess of iterator-based code)...
Totally agreed.
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2016-12-14 13:29 C# new features (v.7) gautier_niouzes
2016-12-14 16:59 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2016-12-14 19:28 ` Shark8
2016-12-14 19:52 ` Wesley Pan
2016-12-14 23:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-16 10:03 ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-16 20:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-15 14:19 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2016-12-16 8:34 ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-17 10:09 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-17 10:51 ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-17 11:36 ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-17 17:13 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2016-12-17 17:52 ` Björn Lundin
2016-12-17 20:45 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2016-12-17 21:56 ` Robert A Duff
2016-12-17 22:56 ` Simon Clubley
2017-02-05 0:37 ` Scott Loyd
2017-02-05 1:07 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-02-05 10:41 ` Lucretia
2017-02-05 16:12 ` Scott Loyd
2017-02-05 17:25 ` Lucretia
2016-12-16 7:49 ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-14 19:28 ` Shark8
2016-12-15 0:13 ` gautier_niouzes
2016-12-16 7:52 ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-16 10:08 ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-16 13:04 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2016-12-15 12:49 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2016-12-16 7:55 ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-16 12:43 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2016-12-16 20:14 ` Hadrien Grasland
2016-12-17 0:01 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo [this message]
2016-12-16 7:47 ` Hadrien Grasland
2017-01-31 1:29 ` brian catlin
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