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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Introductory Presentations, especially aimed at C++ programmers!
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 15:58:23 -0600
Date: 2016-12-09T15:58:23-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <o2f9e0$ijm$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: o2a6vq$q8s$1@dont-email.me

"Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
news:o2a6vq$q8s$1@dont-email.me...
> On 12/07/2016 04:03 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>>
>> To be fair, though, such things can happen in Ada, too. Case in point:
>> something that happened to me today.
>>
>> A customer had what appears to be a permissions problem installing
>> Janus/Ada, so before contacting us, they tried an uninstall. The 
>> uninstaller
>> crashed. I asked them to send me the exact message, and it proved to be
>> overflow error in Claw.Registry. Tracking that down showed that the 
>> buffer
>> for reading a registry variable (so stuff could be removed from it) 
>> wasn't
>> big enough. Of course, Ada detected the error and crashed, but that's 
>> only
>> an iota better than what would have happened in C (the uninstaller didn't 
>> do
>> its job either way).
>
> Well, no, that's not the same thing. You didn't overflow a buffer; you 
> tried to overflow a buffer, but Ada wouldn't let you.

To be fair, the attempt to overflow the buffer came from a Windows API call, 
which wouldn't let you do that no matter what the language. A C program 
could still get in trouble by ignoring the failing API result, but that 
wouldn't be hard in Ada, either. The main difference here is the culture 
surrounding the languages, where in Ada a library ignoring failure would be 
a library no one would use; can't say that about C libraries.

                                          Randy.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-09 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-10 12:24 Introductory Presentations, especially aimed at C++ programmers! John McCabe
2009-07-10 21:49 ` jimmaureenrogers
2009-07-10 23:37   ` wwilson
2009-07-11  0:07     ` jimmaureenrogers
2009-07-12  4:00       ` wwilson
2009-07-11  8:15 ` Stephen Leake
2009-07-15  6:43 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2016-12-07 17:06 ` john
2016-12-07 17:44   ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-07 18:35     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-07 23:03       ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-07 23:47         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-08  0:08           ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09 22:01             ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-09 22:18               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-13  0:53                 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-13  3:21                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-13 21:15                     ` Robert A Duff
2016-12-13 22:05                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-13 22:52                         ` Robert A Duff
2016-12-14  0:02                           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-13 23:05                         ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-14  0:13                           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-14 22:48                             ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-15  0:00                               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-15 10:46                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-12-16  7:37                                   ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-15 20:14                                 ` Niklas Holsti
2016-12-15 20:27                                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-15 21:04                                     ` Niklas Holsti
2016-12-15 21:40                                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-16  7:41                                     ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-13 22:50                     ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-14  0:08                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-14  1:01                         ` Shark8
2016-12-08  8:08           ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-12-08  8:38             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-12-08 10:25             ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-08 13:39               ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-12-09  1:30                 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09  8:31                   ` J-P. Rosen
2016-12-09  8:58                     ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09  9:18                       ` J-P. Rosen
2016-12-09  9:27                         ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09 10:49                           ` J-P. Rosen
2016-12-09 19:58                             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-09  8:35                   ` G.B.
2016-12-09  8:57                     ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09 22:15                     ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-09 21:58           ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2016-12-08  8:23     ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-12-08 18:54   ` Adam Jensen
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