From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org>
Subject: Re: Introductory Presentations, especially aimed at C++ programmers!
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 11:35:18 -0700
Date: 2016-12-07T11:35:18-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <o29kmm$mt7$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1905815374.502825168.454102.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org>
On 12/07/2016 10:44 AM, Luke A. Guest wrote:
>
> And shoot down the bullshit argument if "any good Programmer wouldn't make
> that mistake" because it can happen to anyone.
Examine the change logs of long-lived, open-source, C++ projects, especially
those that communicate over the internet, like Firefox, and you'll find lots of
fixes for buffer overflows and signed integer overflows, same as with C: things
that are impossible in a well designed language. The proportion of such errors
doesn't seem to decrease with time, either, so they are continuing to create new
errors even as they patch the old ones. We have decades of experience with these
languages that show beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is impossible for
humans to write code in them without making such errors.
--
Jeff Carter
"In the frozen land of Nador they were forced to
eat Robin's minstrels, and there was much rejoicing."
Monty Python & the Holy Grail
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2009-07-10 12:24 Introductory Presentations, especially aimed at C++ programmers! John McCabe
2009-07-10 21:49 ` jimmaureenrogers
2009-07-10 23:37 ` wwilson
2009-07-11 0:07 ` jimmaureenrogers
2009-07-12 4:00 ` wwilson
2009-07-11 8:15 ` Stephen Leake
2009-07-15 6:43 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2016-12-07 17:06 ` john
2016-12-07 17:44 ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-07 18:35 ` Jeffrey R. Carter [this message]
2016-12-07 23:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-07 23:47 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-08 0:08 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09 22:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-09 22:18 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-13 0:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-13 3:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-13 21:15 ` Robert A Duff
2016-12-13 22:05 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-13 22:52 ` Robert A Duff
2016-12-14 0:02 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-13 23:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-14 0:13 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-14 22:48 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-15 0:00 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-15 10:46 ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-12-16 7:37 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-15 20:14 ` Niklas Holsti
2016-12-15 20:27 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-15 21:04 ` Niklas Holsti
2016-12-15 21:40 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-16 7:41 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-13 22:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-14 0:08 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-14 1:01 ` Shark8
2016-12-08 8:08 ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-12-08 8:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-12-08 10:25 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-08 13:39 ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-12-09 1:30 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09 8:31 ` J-P. Rosen
2016-12-09 8:58 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09 9:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2016-12-09 9:27 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09 10:49 ` J-P. Rosen
2016-12-09 19:58 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-12-09 8:35 ` G.B.
2016-12-09 8:57 ` Paul Rubin
2016-12-09 22:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-09 21:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-12-08 8:23 ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-12-08 18:54 ` Adam Jensen
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