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From: Markus E L <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: Allocators and exceptions
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:14:23 +0200
Date: 2007-09-12T16:14:23+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <o04pi0q8cg.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: utzq0kqy3.fsf@stephe-leake.org


Stephen Leake wrote:

> Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homepage@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 11 Wrz, 11:16, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> >>> P.S. Exceptions in constructors is a bad idea.
>>>
>>> > No, it's a very good idea. Otherwise you have to deal with half-baked
>>> > objects, which is Even Bigger Mess (tm).
>>>
>>> This is what you get when the exception is propagated out of a constructor.
>>
>> In this case I want the constructor to be rolled back.
>> Without exceptions (and rollback) the only option for handling errors
>> in initialization of (sub)components is to leave them half-baked.
>
> The point is that the constructor itself must do the roll-back, and
> leave the object in a consistent state.
>
> The rule should be:
>
>     Constructors should not propagate exceptions up; they must handle
>     all exceptions internally.

Forgive me that I contradict. The power of exceptions in a properly
designed language is, that it allows to handle problems during complex
object constructions, like

    T = new (something(new something_else ...)

and recover fully. Else we're back to testing failure after every step
again and manuall, as it was/is in C. Maybe I misunderstood the
problem altogether, though.

Regards --- Markus





  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-12 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-09  7:40 Allocators and exceptions Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-09 12:17 ` anon
2007-09-09 20:31   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-09 22:43     ` Simon Wright
2007-09-10 12:10       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-10 19:08         ` Simon Wright
2007-09-10  2:56     ` anon
2007-09-10 12:42     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-10 21:48       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-11  9:16         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-11  9:19           ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-11 12:27             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-11 19:07               ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-11 22:56                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-12 12:36                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-12 22:19                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-12  9:32                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-12 12:42                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-12 15:25                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-12 12:29             ` Stephen Leake
2007-09-12 12:46               ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-12 20:53                 ` Simon Wright
2007-09-12 22:32                   ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-12 23:43                     ` Simon Wright
2007-09-13  3:42                       ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-13  3:36                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-13  9:43                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-12 22:25                 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-13 11:51                 ` Stephen Leake
2007-09-12 14:14               ` Markus E L [this message]
2007-09-10 10:37 ` Allocators and exceptions => Read Me First anon
2007-09-10 12:16   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-10 22:10     ` Allocators and exceptions => Trying Again anon
2007-09-10 23:15       ` Markus E L
2007-09-10 15:44 ` Allocators and exceptions Adam Beneschan
2007-09-10 21:58   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-10 22:07   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-09-11  9:14   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-11  9:23     ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-11  2:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-11 15:33   ` Adam Beneschan
2007-09-11 19:21     ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-11 21:56     ` Adam Beneschan
2007-09-12  0:34       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-09-12 12:13         ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-12 16:34           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-09-12 23:50             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-09-12 12:22       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-12 14:11         ` Markus E L
2007-09-12 16:08         ` Adam Beneschan
2007-09-12 20:35           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-12 21:01             ` Adam Beneschan
2007-09-12 22:45             ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-13  7:48               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-12  3:08 ` Allocators and exceptions -- Debugging says memory leak! anon
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