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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Could you write a BSD like os in ADA?
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 22:58:17 +0200
Date: 2016-05-09T22:58:17+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ngqtla$1eej$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ngqr34$c98$1@loke.gir.dk

On 2016-05-09 22:14, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
> news:ng9l30$rc9$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> On 03/05/2016 00:51, endlessboomcapitalism@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Like with all we know now......rewrite in ada?
>>
>> What for? A poorly designed OS remains that in any language.
>
> That's unfair: BSD was a well-designed OS when it was designed (mid-1970s).
> Consider CP/M-80 (to take one example) for an example of a poorly designed
> (assuming it was designed at all) OS. Rewriting that in Ada (or anything)
> would be bizarre.

CP/M-80 wasn't an OS. The term was 'monitor', IMO.

> But your real point is that it is 2016, and what is the point of recreating
> a 40-year old design?

The design of UNIX was old from the day one. There are not many new 
concepts of OS design since then anyway. Original UNIX ignored almost 
everything of that and used the most stupid ideas instead.

> If we can't do better today (on some dimension of
> "better"), that means that CS is completely stalled since then (and that's
> clearly not true; SPARK alone disproves it).

Yes, though not really related to OS, it might be quite interesting to 
see how SPARK would influence OS implementation and conversely.

> There's also the practical
> issue: If you actually wanted someone to use it, you'd need to offer
> something different.

Theoretically so, but in reality nobody knows what people want until it 
happens. Who would ever need Android?

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-09 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-02 22:51 Could you write a BSD like os in ADA? endlessboomcapitalism
2016-05-03  7:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-05-03 14:29   ` Olivier Henley
2016-05-09 20:14   ` Randy Brukardt
2016-05-09 20:58     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2016-05-09 22:26       ` tmoran
2016-05-10  9:45       ` G.B.
2016-05-10 10:04         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-05-10 10:21           ` G.B.
2016-05-10 10:38             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-05-10 11:10               ` G.B.
2016-05-10 11:41             ` Xavier Petit
2016-05-10 11:54               ` G.B.
2016-05-10 12:18                 ` Bob Butler
2016-05-10 15:10                 ` Xavier Petit
2016-05-09 21:05     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-05-10 22:03       ` Randy Brukardt
2016-05-10 23:55         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-08-21 23:31   ` endlessboomcapitalism
2016-08-22  0:18   ` Andrew Shvets
2016-08-22  5:01     ` J-P. Rosen
2016-08-22  8:14       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-08-22  9:49         ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-22 23:50           ` John Smith
2016-08-23  0:04             ` Shark8
2016-08-23  8:36               ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-23  8:43                 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-23  9:47                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-08-23 13:11                     ` already5chosen
2016-08-24  4:12                   ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2016-08-24  7:26                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-08-24  9:25                       ` already5chosen
2016-08-24 12:05                       ` Vincent
2016-08-24 15:10                       ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-25  0:20                         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2016-08-25 16:30                           ` Niklas Holsti
2016-08-28  1:06                         ` VMS and C/Ada, was: " Simon Clubley
2016-08-28  7:05                           ` Simon Wright
2017-03-14 10:59                           ` gérard Calliet
2017-03-14 14:11                             ` Simon Clubley
2017-03-14 15:15                             ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-03-14 17:07                               ` gérard Calliet
2017-03-14 18:36                               ` Simon Clubley
2017-03-14 23:12                                 ` gérard Calliet
2016-08-24 17:40                       ` Qun-Ying
2016-08-24 18:25                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-08-28  1:20                           ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-28  8:10                             ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28  8:36                               ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-28  8:55                                 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28  9:31                                   ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-28  9:44                                     ` Could you write a BSD like os in Ada? Bob Broderbund
2016-08-24  9:15                     ` Could you write a BSD like os in ADA? already5chosen
2016-08-24 15:11                       ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-24 13:00                     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2016-08-24 15:00                     ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28  1:29                       ` [OT] VSI and VMS, was: " Simon Clubley
2016-08-28  8:12                         ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28  8:43                           ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-28  9:00                             ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28  1:46                   ` [OT] " Simon Clubley
2016-08-28  8:20                     ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28  9:11                       ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-23 12:51           ` already5chosen
2016-08-24  0:50             ` Shark8
2016-08-24 11:03               ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-08-24 15:15             ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-24 15:37               ` already5chosen
2016-08-24 15:53                 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-24 16:37                   ` already5chosen
2016-08-22 11:38         ` J-P. Rosen
2016-08-22 12:10           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-08-22 13:23             ` J-P. Rosen
2016-08-22 23:14             ` rieachus
2016-05-09 23:28 ` Xavier Petit
2016-05-10 15:58 ` Istvan Nagy
2016-05-12 22:18 ` phil.clayton
2016-05-14  0:57   ` Simon Clubley
2016-05-14 11:33     ` AdaMagica
2016-05-16 17:37 ` Norman Worth
2016-08-03 15:31   ` Serge Robyns
2016-08-06 23:12     ` Luke A. Guest
2016-08-25  0:00 ` rieachus
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