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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada for the TLS/SSL problem?
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:04:59 +0100
Date: 2016-03-16T18:04:59+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ncc3o0$1ftn$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: e7a1c6f0-9ef2-45b5-8e06-c9d5fad3c97b@googlegroups.com

On 2016-03-16 13:09, Peter Brooks wrote:

> My feeling is that we'd need a general, configurable, security
> layer.  This can be proved to work by implementing TLS.

Well from my POV the idea of a layer as known in SSL/TLS is a 
non-starter. It is broken per design because it cannot provide 
reasonable QoS, short latency required for automation and control 
applications.

The basic requirement is that encryption and signing may not coalesce 
transport packets. Ideally it should work on the packet level with 
packets of any length. I understand that this would impose difficult 
problems but otherwise it would be unusable outside lousy web applications.

It is OK to implement TLS as-is, nobody would object that. But something 
better must be really better.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-16 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-15 18:46 Ada for the TLS/SSL problem? Peter Brooks
2016-03-15 19:00 ` Shark8
2016-03-15 19:10   ` Peter Brooks
2016-03-15 19:04 ` Shark8
2016-03-15 20:47 ` Florian Weimer
2016-03-16  8:14   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-16 17:42     ` Florian Weimer
2016-03-16 18:25       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-16 22:18         ` Florian Weimer
2016-03-17  8:14           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-15 21:02 ` Paul Rubin
2016-03-16  4:08   ` Peter Brooks
2016-03-16  6:13     ` Paul Rubin
2016-03-16 12:09       ` Peter Brooks
2016-03-16 17:04         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2016-03-16 18:31           ` Peter Brooks
2016-03-16 20:28             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-16 19:57           ` Olivier Henley
2016-03-16  8:42 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2016-03-16  8:46   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-16 10:52   ` G.B.
2016-03-16 15:27     ` G.B.
2016-03-16 12:14   ` Peter Brooks
2016-03-16 12:17     ` Bob Butler
2016-04-26 10:42 ` Peter Brooks
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