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From: kaz@ashi.footprints.net (Kaz Kylheku)
Subject: Re: Subtle Bugs, kudos Ada (was How Ada ...Red Code ...)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:34:27 GMT
Date: 2001-08-22T20:34:27+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nHUg7.93012$B37.2083519@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3B83F042.4CFB073D@home.com

In article <3B83F042.4CFB073D@home.com>, Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote:
>#define ACLIP 31744
>...
>unsigned char
>st_linear_to_Alaw( sample )
>short sample;
>    {
>    static const unsigned char exp_lut[128] = { ...snip... };
>    int sign, exponent, mantissa;
>    unsigned char Alawbyte;
>
>    /* Get the sample into sign-magnitude. */
>    sign = ((~sample) >> 8) & 0x80;		/* set aside the sign */
>    if ( sign == 0 ) sample = -sample;		/* get magnitude */
>    if ( sample > ACLIP ) sample = ACLIP;	/* clip the magnitude */
>    ...

Even before seeing the body of the function, I wonder why it's using
old-style C. Even if there is a good reason for using old-style C,
why is it using a promotable type for a parameter? The use of a promotable
type means that if a correct function prototype is written for the
function, it will have to use the promoted type, that is to say:

	unsigned char st_linear_to_Alaw (int sample);

Lastly, why is the type short being used at all? The advantage of short
is that it may provide a compact representation for a large array of
integers, provided that a range no wider than -32767 to 32767 is required
(the minimum range required by ANSI/ISO C for the type short).

The way the sign is detected is completely braindamaged; it assumes
that signed short is 16 bits wide, so that shifting it 8 bits
to the right will cause the sign bit to land in position 7.
Also, shifting right a signed quantity whose sign bit is 1 is
implementation-defined; I think it's undefined in C99.

What is wrong with, say:

	sign = (sample >= 0);	/* 0 if negative */

Clearly, the programmer did not inspect that the function will produce
the correct output value for every input.  It was obviously not even
tested or inspected what happens in inputs representing interesting
partitions of the input space, such as -32768, -32767, 0 or 32767.

The program is probably not accompanied by test cases consisting of files
containing 16 bit linear samples and corresponding alaw files that are
known to be correct.

So we could say a number of things besides ``sox is written in the
wrong programming language''.

If this function is submitted for critique to comp.lang.c, the errors
in it will be shaken out in an instant, and a maximally portable version
will soon appear that will work on C implementations with unusual sizes
of integral types, CHAR_BIT other than 8, and sign-magnitude or ones'
complement representations for negative numbers. Try it!

Would you hire the programmer who wrote this function, to work with you
on a project in *any* programming language? 

If we are going to blame the programming language rather than the
programmer then let's do it right. If the programming language is at
fault, then it's because of the data representation. The program logic is
correct over abstract integers; it fails due to the machine-oriented data
represetation.   So the problem is that the language allows the programmer
to say ``use ony 16 bits and fail if the computation requires more''.
That in itself is an usafe feature, regardless of whether the overflow
is detected or not. Either way, the program fails to compute the result.

Although detection in Ada is superior to ignoring the error in C,
stopping the program on 16 bit overflow can still crash a rocket.

If I ported the essence of the algorithm to Common Lisp (for instance),
then it will just work. The additive inverse of  -32768 will be happily
computed as 32768.  The undisciplined programmer won't be seduced into
writing nonsense, such as artificially restricting the width of the
computation. The integer type tries to approximate mathematical integers
within the limitations of the machine resources.

(defconstant *alaw-clip* 42) ;; substitute actual value here

(defun st-linear-to-alaw (sample)
 (check-type sample integer)
 (let ((is-negative (< sample 0)))
  (setf sample (min (abs sample) *alaw-clip*))

   ;; rest of the algorithm with a-law table lookup, etc...

   ))

No bit manipulation tricks for detecting the sign, no 16 bit
representation braindamage. The sample parameter could be a bignum,
and it will work correctly. An alorithm can be described using pure,
mathematical integers, and then turned into code directly, without
worring about representation issues such as the limited range of
integers. Prevention of such issues is superior to detection.

So the bottom line is that whether you are programming in static
languages like C or Ada, you are metaphorically carving clay tablets
with with stone knives.  These languages trade reliability and clarity
for machine efficiency. Trivial differences among them are dwarfed by
the differences between them and a truly high level language.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-08-22 20:34 UTC|newest]

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2001-07-30  7:08 How to make Ada a dominant language Russ
2001-07-30  8:36 ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 12:41   ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 12:52     ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 13:24       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 15:47         ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 23:13         ` Gary Scott
2001-07-31  1:07         ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-30 15:38       ` Darren New
2001-07-31  8:31       ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-30 12:52     ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 13:38       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 13:43         ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 15:08           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 15:02             ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 15:52               ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 17:19                 ` Darren New
2001-07-31  7:35                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-02  1:36                   ` David Starner
2001-08-02  8:01                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02  8:11                       ` David Starner
2001-08-02 12:11                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 14:47                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-02 16:10                       ` Darren New
2001-08-02 19:30                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 19:04                           ` Darren New
2001-08-02 20:52                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 16:09                     ` Darren New
2001-08-02 23:39                     ` bruns
2001-08-03  7:28                       ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-03 18:53                         ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-03 13:59                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03  3:40                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 16:21               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 16:19                 ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 16:33                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-30 18:33                   ` Stefan Nobis
2001-07-30 21:26                     ` Milan Mancel
2001-07-31  3:37                       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31 20:36                         ` Milan Mancel
2001-07-31 14:37                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-31 14:56                         ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-31 15:07                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01  0:54                         ` David Bolen
2001-08-01 13:17                           ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 22:15                             ` David Bolen
2001-08-01  9:11                         ` Milan Mancel
2001-08-01 12:06                           ` Larry Hazel
2001-08-01 13:41                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 15:55                               ` Larry Hazel
2001-08-01 16:56                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 19:18                                   ` Ed Falis
2001-08-01 13:41                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 13:28                           ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 15:17                           ` Scott Ingram
2001-07-31  3:06                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31  4:10                   ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  5:05                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-30 17:19               ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-31  3:46                 ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  5:08                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31  7:09                   ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-31 14:17                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-30 17:33               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-31  4:01                 ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31 17:31                   ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-30 17:51               ` file13
2001-07-31 14:51                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-30 22:35               ` Attributes of a development which require Ada (Was Re: How to make Ada a dominant language) Hambut
2001-07-31  6:16               ` How to make Ada a dominant language Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-31  9:32       ` Philip Anderson
2001-07-31 10:16         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-08-02 20:35       ` Barry Kelly
2001-08-03  0:07         ` Keith Thompson
2001-08-03  6:35         ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-08-16  5:19       ` David Thompson
2001-07-30 18:22     ` Stefan Nobis
2001-07-31  0:53     ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-31  3:24       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  6:47         ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-31  7:10           ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  7:22             ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-31  7:38             ` Keith Thompson
2001-07-31  8:20             ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-31 15:32           ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-31 11:16         ` David Gillon
2001-08-01  1:25         ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01  4:25           ` Russ
2001-08-01  8:22             ` MALAISE Pascal
2001-08-01  9:34             ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-01 10:32               ` AG
2001-08-01 15:55                 ` Russ
2001-08-01 16:50                   ` chris.danx
2001-08-01 15:52               ` Russ
2001-08-01 13:48             ` Stefan Nobis
2001-08-02  8:32               ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-01 10:08         ` AG
2001-07-31  8:29     ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31 20:34       ` Keith Thompson
2001-07-31 21:29         ` The concept of := (was How to make Ada a dominant language) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-01  2:29           ` Keith Thompson
2001-08-01  3:27           ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack raj
2001-08-01  4:58             ` Martin Ambuhl
2001-08-01  5:01             ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-01  8:24               ` raj
2001-08-01 12:55                 ` Bart v Ingen Schenau
2001-08-01 18:44               ` Lawrence Foard
2001-08-01 19:58                 ` Matthias Blume
2001-08-01 20:46                 ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-01 21:21                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 13:44                     ` CBFalconer
2001-08-03 23:43                     ` Tom Plunket
2001-08-06  7:11                       ` Dave Adlam
2001-08-02  8:54                 ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03  3:20                   ` Zoltan Somogyi
2001-08-01  8:56             ` Richard Bos
2001-08-01 13:09             ` Mike Smith
2001-08-01 15:32               ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-01 16:24                 ` Karl Heinz Buchegger
2001-08-07 23:55                   ` Mark Lundquist
2001-08-01 20:36                 ` Micah Cowan
2001-08-01 22:05                   ` Ed Falis
2001-08-01 22:47                     ` Micah Cowan
2001-08-02  3:37                       ` Ed Falis
2001-08-02 13:44                     ` CBFalconer
2001-08-07 20:57                       ` Albert van der Horst
2001-08-09  1:25                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-01 22:56                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Markus Mottl
2001-08-01 23:13                     ` Richard Heathfield
2001-08-01 23:18                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-02  4:10                         ` gregm
2001-08-01 23:24                       ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-02  0:05                         ` Aaron Denney
2001-08-02  9:13                           ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-02 13:44                           ` CBFalconer
2001-08-02  0:32                         ` those who know me have no need of my name
2001-08-02  7:38                         ` Richard Heathfield
2001-08-02  0:20                       ` Darren New
2001-08-02  1:22                       ` Michael Rubenstein
2001-08-02  5:49                       ` Fergus Henderson
2001-08-02  6:44                         ` Chris Kuan
2001-08-03  1:08                           ` Chris Kuan
2001-08-02  8:28                       ` Zoltan Somogyi
2001-08-02 19:05                       ` Wes Groleau
2001-08-02  3:11                     ` Bruce G. Stewart
2001-08-02  3:21                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-02  3:24                         ` David Starner
2001-08-02  6:53                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-02  9:19                       ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-02  7:54                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-01 17:32               ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-02 11:56                 ` Beelsebob
2001-08-02 12:15                   ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-02 13:06                   ` Charles Krug
2001-08-02 14:12                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 16:51                   ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-02 19:21                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-03  0:44                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Mike Silva
2001-08-01 17:49               ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-01 18:11                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 18:40                   ` Chris Torek
2001-08-01 20:04                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 21:27                       ` Chris Torek
2001-08-02  0:15                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-27 12:16                           ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-02 14:26                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 19:29                           ` CBFalconer
2001-08-01 23:15                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02  8:25                         ` Richard Bos
2001-08-02 12:01                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 21:52                           ` Chris Torek
2001-08-03  6:05                             ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03  6:17                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-03 14:36                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 17:55                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-03 18:01                                     ` Ben Pfaff
2001-08-03 18:23                                     ` Marc A. Criley
2001-08-05  3:38                                     ` AG
2001-08-13 20:23                                     ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-03 18:15                                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-03 19:09                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 20:26                                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-03 21:54                                     ` Tore Lund
2001-08-06  3:35                                       ` Keith Thompson
2001-08-06 23:36                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-06  9:30                                       ` kers
2001-08-03 11:24                               ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03 14:41                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 13:51                                   ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 16:07                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-07 15:12                                     ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-02 15:08                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03  0:34                           ` Mike Silva
2001-08-01 21:40                     ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                     ` <GHEt6A.BzD@approve.se>
2001-08-01 22:12                       ` Ed Falis
     [not found]                         ` <GHFDJp.G7q@approve.se>
2001-08-02  7:41                           ` Preben Randhol
     [not found]                             ` <GHGA3t.Izq@approve.se>
2001-08-02 17:30                               ` David Gillon
2001-08-02 17:37                               ` Marin David Condic
     [not found]                                 ` <GHGGJH.JpI@approve.se>
2001-08-02 20:11                                   ` Darren New
2001-08-02 20:37                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 10:15                                     ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-03 14:15                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 14:55                                         ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-03 14:44                                       ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 15:02                                         ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-03 15:38                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 17:00                                       ` Mike Silva
2001-08-03 17:21                                         ` Mike Williams
2001-08-05 21:39                                           ` Mike Silva
2001-08-06 14:32                                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 20:55                                   ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 21:56                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-02 17:38                               ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-02 17:54                                 ` Ruslan Abdikeev
2001-08-02 18:01                               ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 19:24                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 18:44                                 ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-03  7:53                                   ` Christian Bau
2001-08-03  8:02                                     ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-03  9:27                                       ` Christian Bau
2001-08-03 10:01                                         ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-03 14:46                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 14:41                                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-04 14:11                                       ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-06 14:42                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 19:05                                 ` Darren New
2001-08-02 19:29                               ` CBFalconer
2001-08-02 19:25                             ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-03  3:11                               ` Mike Silva
2001-08-04  0:26                                 ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-04  2:50                                   ` James Rogers
2001-08-04 14:07                                     ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-04 14:56                                       ` James Rogers
2001-08-05 12:44                                         ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-06  0:22                                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-06 13:51                                         ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 16:23                                           ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 14:13                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 16:17                                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-06 14:17                                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 14:03                                         ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 15:02                                           ` Yoann Padioleau
2001-08-06 15:17                                             ` Matthias Blume
2001-08-06 16:42                                             ` Aaron Denney
2001-08-06 16:35                                         ` Aaron Denney
2001-08-07 19:43                                         ` David Lee Lambert
2001-08-07 20:15                                           ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-05 22:15                                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Mike Silva
2001-08-06 11:44                                   ` David Gillon
2001-08-06 14:59                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-06 18:12                                     ` CBFalconer
2001-08-06 19:35                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 13:02                           ` Ed Falis
2001-08-02 15:24                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 16:02                             ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-01 18:43                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 21:07                     ` Mike Smith
2001-08-01 22:12                       ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-08-01 22:40                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-01 23:00                           ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-08-02  5:00                             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-02 15:53                               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-08-02  8:25                             ` Richard Bos
2001-08-02 10:09                               ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-03  7:26                                 ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03 12:06                                   ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-02 17:30                               ` CBFalconer
2001-08-05  8:06                                 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2001-08-02  6:55                           ` Ketil Z Malde
2001-08-01 22:44                       ` Dan Cross
2001-08-01 23:29                         ` Aaron Denney
2001-08-02  2:19                         ` Mike Smith
2001-08-02  8:17                           ` Bill Godfrey
2001-08-02 10:14                           ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-02 19:23                             ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-03  8:05                               ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-02 15:37                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 17:25                             ` David Gillon
2001-08-02 15:50                           ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03  6:26                             ` Mike Williams
2001-08-03 14:07                               ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03 14:31                               ` Dan Cross
     [not found]                       ` <dale-8EE262.08123502082001@mec2. <Xz%97.2632$B37.106689@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>
2001-08-01 22:58                         ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02  8:25                           ` Richard Bos
2001-08-02  9:25                             ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-02 16:10                             ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 16:20                               ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-02 16:42                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 17:29                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 18:04                                     ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-02 18:06                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 22:58                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-03  8:25                                     ` CBFalconer
2001-08-06 21:26                                     ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-07  0:07                                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07  0:15                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07  3:04                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07  3:18                                             ` Francois Labreque
2001-08-07  4:10                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07  5:14                                             ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07 12:04                                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 17:16                                               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-07 11:53                                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 16:12                                             ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07 17:28                                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-07 17:56                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07 18:36                                                 ` David Starner
2001-08-07 21:14                                                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-08  7:38                                                     ` David Starner
2001-08-07 21:49                                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08  3:39                                                     ` David Starner
2001-08-08 10:40                                                   ` A Directory package for Ada (was: How Ada could have prevented) Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 11:57                                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-07 22:44                                           ` James Rogers
2001-08-08  4:04                                             ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-08 10:00                                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-08 21:55                                             ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-08 23:13                                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-09 13:20                                               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-08  2:59                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08  4:03                                             ` David Bolen
2001-08-08  4:56                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08 23:49                                                 ` David Bolen
2001-08-09  5:12                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 13:10                                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 23:57                                                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-10 13:35                                                         ` Data portability with streams Ted Dennison
2001-08-10 17:13                                                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-10 19:51                                                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-08 22:18                                             ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-09  5:30                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 18:10                                                 ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10  0:05                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-14 12:51                                                 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-14 13:32                                                   ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-14 14:39                                                   ` Larry Hazel
2001-08-14 16:14                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-14 16:26                                                     ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-15 13:36                                                     ` Martin
2001-08-15 16:47                                                       ` Ray Blaak
2001-08-14 16:15                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16  5:16                                                 ` David Thompson
2001-08-16 13:19                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 13:25                                                     ` Richard Bos
2001-08-16 13:44                                                     ` Ian Wild
2001-08-16 17:32                                                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 17:53                                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-16 18:52                                                           ` David C. Hoos
2001-08-16 20:40                                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 18:23                                                         ` Ron Natalie
2001-08-16 20:41                                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 21:14                                                             ` Ben Pfaff
2001-08-16 21:33                                                               ` Ron Natalie
2001-08-17 18:10                                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-20  8:22                                                                   ` Ian Wild
2001-08-16 21:34                                                               ` Karthik Gurusamy
2001-08-16 21:36                                                                 ` Ben Pfaff
2001-08-16 17:31                                                     ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-16 19:28                                                       ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-19 18:14                                                       ` Michael Rubenstein
2001-08-16 18:28                                                     ` Clark S. Cox III
     [not found]                                                     ` <urTe7.71343$B37.16278 <3B7C1EF2.4DF3C7A5@gsde.hou.us.ray.com>
2001-08-16 21:49                                                       ` Greg Comeau
2001-08-16 22:38                                                         ` Samuel T. Harris
     [not found]                                                     ` <3B7BCEC4.202A3FA@cfmu <Pine.GSO.4.33.0108161431560.15612-100000@longmorn.cisco.com>
2001-08-16 22:23                                                       ` Greg Comeau
2001-08-13 20:54                                         ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-07 16:20                                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-07 17:49                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08  3:14                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08 22:34                                           ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-09  5:36                                             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 18:43                                               ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10  0:23                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-10 12:29                                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10 15:01                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-11  9:00                                                       ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-11 18:19                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 14:18                                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 15:48                                               ` Clark S. Cox III
2001-08-09 16:52                                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 17:34                                                   ` Clark S. Cox III
2001-08-09 19:23                                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-13 21:59                                                     ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-20 13:39                                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23 17:17                                                         ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-27  1:49                                                         ` simple CPUs, was " tmoran
2001-08-27 11:08                                                           ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-27 13:53                                                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 14:44                                                             ` Gary Scott
2001-08-27 18:49                                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 18:46                                                             ` tmoran
2001-08-27 19:10                                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 23:33                                                                 ` William Dale
2001-08-28 13:38                                                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-09 20:26                                                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-09 21:03                                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 19:07                                               ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10  1:05                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-10 12:45                                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10 15:05                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-11  9:05                                                       ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-11 19:49                                                         ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-08-14 13:09                                                   ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-17  0:46                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-17  1:53                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-17  9:29                                                         ` pete
2001-08-17 10:23                                                           ` Richard Bos
2001-08-17 13:46                                                             ` pete
2001-08-17 14:33                                                             ` pete
2001-08-17 20:12                                                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-20  7:02                                                             ` pete
2001-08-20 16:39                                                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-17  1:57                                                       ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-17  2:27                                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-17  3:42                                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-17  7:33                                                             ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-17 13:46                                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-17 20:08                                                                 ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-18  5:16                                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-18 22:27                                                                     ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-29  3:47                                                                       ` David Thompson
2001-08-29 16:00                                                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-19 21:19                                                                 ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-17 16:40                                                               ` Ian
2001-08-17 14:05                                                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-17 22:15                                                           ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-17 17:11                                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Matthew Austern
2001-08-10 14:16                                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-03  7:26                               ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03 15:05                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 18:06                                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-03 19:05                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 19:37                                     ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-04  8:00                                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-06 16:48                                         ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-06 16:56                                           ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-06 17:16                                             ` Gerhard Häring
2001-08-06 17:34                                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-06 19:30                                                 ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-06 19:42                                                   ` Ben Pfaff
2001-08-06 22:52                                                     ` Preben Randhol
     [not found]                                               ` <QyAb7.24745$B37.4 <87zo9dug9p.fsf@pfaffben.user.msu.edu>
2001-08-06 21:08                                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 21:28                                                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 17:19                                             ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-06 19:19                                               ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-07  0:10                                             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07  1:09                                               ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-07  3:06                                                 ` James Rogers
2001-08-07  6:11                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07 23:22                                                     ` James Rogers
2001-08-08  0:25                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-08 14:03                                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-07  7:25                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07 23:24                                                     ` James Rogers
2001-08-07 11:05                                                   ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-07 23:20                                                   ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-07 23:32                                                     ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-08  4:52                                                     ` James Rogers
2001-08-08  5:31                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-08  5:36                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-08 12:26                                                         ` James Rogers
2001-08-08 14:47                                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-08  9:27                                                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-08 23:08                                                       ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-07  3:09                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07 22:01                                                   ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-08  4:18                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08  5:00                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-08  5:16                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08 23:12                                                       ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-08 23:44                                                         ` Ed Falis
2001-08-09  0:19                                                           ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-09  1:19                                                             ` Ed Falis
2001-08-09  3:15                                                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-09  5:48                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 14:48                                                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 23:55                                                           ` Martin Ambuhl
2001-08-14 12:25                                                           ` cppwiz
2001-08-14 15:39                                                           ` Stanley R. Allen
2001-08-07  7:09                                               ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Chris Torek
2001-08-08  4:25                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07 12:06                                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 12:42                                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-09 15:25                                               ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                               ` <3B6F3FAE.B9B9FOrganization: LJK Software <c78BbJ9nURZD@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-09 17:24                                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-03 19:56                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 15:21                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-06 10:04                                   ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 14:23                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 14:03                                       ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 15:42                                         ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 18:55                               ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-06 21:54                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-07 11:39                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-07 21:58                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-07 22:51                                       ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-08 14:12                                         ` Dan Cross
2001-08-08 21:36                                           ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-09  5:54                                             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 19:34                                               ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-09 23:29                                                 ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-10  0:46                                                   ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-10 12:46                                                     ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10 15:53                                                       ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-10 12:04                                                   ` Joona I Palaste
2001-08-10  1:23                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-10 14:33                                                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-10 15:32                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-11  3:56                                                       ` David Starner
2001-08-11 14:10                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-11 14:27                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 15:57                                             ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Marin David Condic
2001-08-09 19:42                                               ` Joachim Durchholz
2001-08-09 20:05                                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-10  6:47                                                   ` Joachim Durchholz
2001-08-10  7:14                                                   ` Ketil Z Malde
2001-08-09 20:09                                                 ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-09 20:16                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-10  5:16                                               ` Nicholas James NETHERCOTE
2001-08-10  6:37                                               ` Richard Heathfield
2001-08-10 13:40                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-10 17:16                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-13  9:27                                                     ` Ulf Wiger
2001-08-10  8:59                                               ` Andreas Rossberg
2001-08-12  2:58                                             ` AG
2001-08-06 22:52                                 ` Ed Falis
2001-08-07 13:51                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07 22:28                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-07 23:06                                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07 19:39                                 ` Fergus Henderson
2001-08-01 19:08                   ` tmoran
2001-08-01 21:41                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-01 23:34                       ` tmoran
2001-08-02  1:29                         ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-02  3:11                           ` tmoran
2001-08-03 17:54                             ` Dale Pontius
2001-08-05  8:23                               ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-05  8:30                             ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-02 21:06                           ` chris.danx
2001-08-03 10:20                             ` chris.danx
2001-08-03 14:00                             ` Evil browser-specific web sites (was: " Ted Dennison
2001-08-03 15:27                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-03 20:51                               ` chris.danx
2001-08-01 22:42                 ` Hartmann Schaffer
2001-08-02  1:09                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-04 18:36                 ` David Lee Lambert
2001-08-04 21:05                   ` David Wagner
2001-08-05  3:00                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial ofservice attack Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-05  6:00                   ` CBFalconer
2001-08-06 15:29                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07  2:50                       ` Mike Silva
2001-08-05  8:15                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2001-08-05  9:36                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-07 14:34             ` Attila Feher
2001-08-08 19:16               ` Simon Wright
2001-08-12  6:22                 ` How a modern programming language " raj
2001-08-12  7:41             ` How Ada " Will
2001-08-12 17:38               ` Joona I Palaste
2001-08-12 18:22                 ` Rajat Datta
2001-08-12 18:52                 ` Dillo
2001-08-12 19:19               ` Gautier
2001-08-12 21:57                 ` Tore Lund
2001-08-12 20:38               ` Tim Robinson
2001-08-12 22:02                 ` tmoran
2001-08-16  1:53                 ` Tony Gair
2001-08-16 13:29                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-16 20:52                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 21:37                       ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Marin David Condic
2001-08-17 14:25                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-17 16:36                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-08-17 17:19                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-17 18:04                           ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Ted Dennison
2001-08-17 18:09                           ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-18  2:56                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-18  7:32                             ` David Starner
2001-08-19  6:53                             ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-08-19 17:00                               ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-20 14:00                               ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Ted Dennison
2001-08-20 14:24                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-20 23:24                                   ` Didier Utheza
2001-08-21 13:43                                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-21 15:05                                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-21 15:29                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-21 17:03                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-21 22:03                                             ` Didier Utheza
2001-08-22 13:44                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 16:30                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 17:03                                                   ` Progress on AdaOS Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 18:21                                                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 19:50                                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 18:23                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 19:54                                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23  3:42                                                         ` David Starner
2001-08-23 17:17                                                           ` Open Source Approach (was Progress on AdaOS) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-24  1:04                                                             ` Gerhard Häring
2001-08-24 15:27                                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-23 18:36                                                           ` Progress on AdaOS Marin David Condic
2001-08-24  1:03                                                             ` David Starner
2001-08-24 13:47                                                               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-24 14:42                                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-24 16:25                                                                 ` Gary Scott
2001-08-24 16:53                                                                   ` O/S Research is Dead? (was Progress on AdaOS) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-24 22:01                                                                   ` Progress on AdaOS David Starner
2001-08-25 17:19                                                                     ` Gary Scott
2001-08-26  7:51                                                                       ` David Starner
2001-08-22 17:17                                                   ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Preben Randhol
2001-08-22 17:45                                                     ` Didier Utheza
2001-08-22 19:08                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-22 18:32                                             ` Progress on AdaOS Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.A41.4.10.Organization: LJK Software <Ypd7dD0WS5sw@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-22 20:00                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-24 20:34                                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-25  1:31                                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-25 17:11                                               ` David Starner
2001-08-25 19:34                                                 ` Gary Scott
2001-08-25 20:00                                                   ` Gary Scott
2001-08-26  7:59                                                   ` David Starner
2001-08-26 11:47                                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-26 16:31                                               ` David Starner
2001-08-27  7:46                                                 ` Frédéric Valdes
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.A41.4.10.Organization: LJK Software <uBW9YP9YCoMO@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-27 13:14                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 17:30                                                 ` David Starner
2001-08-27 21:08                                                   ` Darren New
2001-08-28  1:51                                                     ` David Starner
2001-08-28 16:13                                                       ` Darren New
2001-08-29  3:13                                                         ` David Starner
2001-08-29 16:42                                                           ` Darren New
2001-08-30  6:23                                                             ` David Starner
2001-08-30 16:37                                                               ` Darren New
2001-08-31 16:09                                                                 ` Darren New
2001-08-31 18:42                                                                   ` M. A. Alves
2001-08-31 17:58                                                                     ` Darren New
2001-08-31 19:31                                                                       ` M. A. Alves
2001-08-31 19:54                                                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-31 20:00                                                                         ` Darren New
2001-09-01  2:31                                                                           ` David Starner
2001-09-02 23:02                                                                             ` Darren New
2001-09-03 18:36                                                                               ` Ada OS talk (was: Progress on AdaOS) M. A. Alves
2001-09-03 18:11                                                                                 ` Darren New
2001-09-03 20:12                                                                                   ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-04 13:02                                                                                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 14:34                                                                                       ` Gary Scott
2001-09-04 19:44                                                                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 21:00                                                                                           ` Gary Scott
2001-09-06 13:52                                                                                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 17:13                                                                                       ` Darren New
2001-09-04 18:34                                                                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-05  7:14                                                                                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-09-04 21:28                                                                                       ` David Starner
2001-09-05  5:06                                                                                         ` Brian Catlin
2001-09-06 13:59                                                                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 21:00                                                                                           ` David Starner
2001-09-07 14:24                                                                                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-10  3:20                                                                                               ` Michael Garrett
2001-09-10 12:37                                                                                                 ` RTEMS and Ada, Was: " Simon Clubley
2001-09-10 19:29                                                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2001-09-10 20:25                                                                                                     ` Simon Clubley
2001-09-10 20:56                                                                                                   ` Joel Sherrill
2001-09-10 13:57                                                                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-10 20:39                                                                                                   ` Joel Sherrill
2001-09-11  4:04                                                                                                     ` Michael Garrett
2001-09-10  3:55                                                                                               ` David Starner
2001-09-04 17:09                                                                                     ` Darren New
2001-09-01 19:21                                                                       ` Progress on AdaOS Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-02  1:09                                                                         ` Chad R. Meiners
2001-09-02 10:49                                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-03  6:39                                                                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-09-05  7:28                                                                           ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-09-03 19:16                                                                         ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-05  7:47                                                                           ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-09-05 16:37                                                                             ` Darren New
2001-09-06 12:33                                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-06 16:35                                                                                 ` Darren New
2001-09-07  7:49                                                                                   ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-09-07 15:58                                                                                     ` Darren New
2001-09-08 12:02                                                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-09  2:06                                                                                         ` Darren New
2001-09-09  7:46                                                                                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-09 18:35                                                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-09 20:35                                                                                             ` Darren New
2001-09-10 17:24                                                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-10 18:16                                                                                                 ` Darren New
2001-08-31 23:51                                                                     ` Brian Catlin
2001-09-01 23:46                                                                     ` Keith Thompson
2001-09-03 18:54                                                                       ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-09  0:43                                                                       ` David Thompson
2001-09-10 10:53                                                                         ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-10 18:11                                                                           ` David Starner
2001-09-11 10:45                                                                             ` M. A. Alves
2001-08-29 15:56                                                     ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-28 11:07                                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.A41.4.10.Organization: LJK Software <QzMRgPYPkyBy@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-27 13:27                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 23:21                                                 ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-08-28 13:22                                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-29  8:19                                                     ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-08-29 14:50                                                       ` Tony Gair
2001-08-29 15:31                                                         ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-09-09 20:34                                                       ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-27 23:30                                             ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                             ` <uBW9YP9YCoMO@eOrganization: LJK Software <sy8cXTZt45T9@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-28 15:48                                               ` Steffen Huber
2001-08-21 21:21                                           ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red David Starner
2001-08-22 14:03                                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 16:42                                               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 17:22                                                 ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-22 21:09                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23  8:50                                                 ` Steinar Knutsen
2001-08-22 22:15                                               ` David Starner
2001-08-23 17:29                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-21 20:50                                         ` David Starner
2001-08-22  1:50                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 13:50                                             ` OT: Progress on AdaOS David Starner
2001-08-21 15:52                           ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Darren New
2001-08-13 13:28               ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Ted Dennison
2001-08-13 15:31               ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-22  6:17               ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-22  9:04                 ` Joachim Durchholz
2001-08-22  9:54                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-22 10:10                     ` Richard Bos
2001-08-22 11:17                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-22 12:35                         ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 12:45                         ` Richard Bos
2001-08-22 13:31                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 18:06                           ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-22 18:50                             ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 22:10                               ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-23 13:43                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-23 16:03                                   ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-23 16:10                                     ` Gary Scott
2001-08-23 18:01                                       ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-23 16:52                                     ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-23 17:56                                       ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-23 21:21                                       ` Tore Lund
2001-08-24 17:28                                         ` QNX (was Re: How Ada could have prevented ...) Ray Blaak
2001-08-23 18:17                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 12:18                       ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 13:33                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 20:29                           ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 21:28                             ` OT: US global politics (was: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Ted Dennison
2001-08-23  9:41                               ` OT: US global politics Markus Mottl
2001-08-23  4:37                             ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Daniel C. Wang
2001-08-22 13:39                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-23  6:26                       ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-23 12:57                         ` Vincent Marciante
2001-08-23 16:56                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 10:24                   ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 12:34                     ` Joachim Durchholz
2001-08-22 12:47                       ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 14:47                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 16:13                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 14:33                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 18:28                       ` Jerry Petrey
2001-08-22 19:35                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-23  6:43                           ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-27  1:49                             ` tmoran
2001-08-22 20:04                       ` Garry Hodgson
2001-08-22 20:39                       ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Markus Mottl
     [not found]                       ` <3B83F9D6.73CB3E02@west.rayt <3B84103F.30409430@sage.att.com>
2001-08-22 22:26                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-25 22:44                       ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-22 17:47                     ` Subtle Bugs, kudos Ada (was How Ada ...Red Code ...) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 18:55                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 20:25                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-23  3:21                         ` David Starner
2001-08-22 20:34                       ` Kaz Kylheku [this message]
2001-08-22 21:57                         ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-08-23  1:56                         ` Joe Maun
2001-08-26  1:10                           ` Igor Tandetnik
2001-08-26  5:16                             ` pete
2001-08-26 15:02                               ` Igor Tandetnik
2001-08-27  1:52                                 ` Joe Maun
2001-08-27  3:13                                   ` Igor Tandetnik
2001-08-27  2:59                                 ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-26  9:13                           ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-27  1:53                             ` Joe Maun
2001-08-27 11:05                               ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-27 19:36                                 ` Joe Maun
2001-08-27 20:49                                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-28  3:34                                     ` Joe Maun
2001-08-28  4:50                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-28 17:14                                         ` Joe Maun
2001-08-28 19:00                                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-28 19:13                                             ` Joe Maun
2001-08-28 20:47                                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-28 20:49                                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-28 23:18                                                 ` Joe Maun
2001-08-29  2:17                                                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-29  2:10                                                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-29  2:14                                               ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-29 17:31                                               ` B.Gaffney
2001-08-29 18:19                                                 ` Darren New
2001-08-23  3:17                         ` David Starner
2001-08-23  5:11                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-23  9:12                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-08-23  9:42                           ` Richard Bos
2001-08-23 12:00                             ` James Rogers
2001-08-23 14:08                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23 13:58                             ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-23 14:46                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-23 14:21                               ` Richard Bos
2001-08-23 15:15                             ` David Starner
2001-08-23 20:54                               ` CBFalconer
2001-08-23 17:02                             ` Richard Riehle
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2001-08-23 21:21                           ` Dan Cross
2001-08-24  0:40                             ` CBFalconer
2001-07-30  8:36 ` How to make Ada a dominant language Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 11:18   ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-30 12:01     ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 12:56       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  3:17         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-30 12:29     ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 13:11       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 15:45         ` Darren New
2001-07-30 16:00           ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 16:26             ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 16:50               ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-30 17:55               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 17:23                 ` Darren New
2001-07-31  8:55                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31  9:45                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-31  8:53               ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31 10:14             ` Philip Anderson
2001-07-31  8:51         ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31 16:16           ` Darren New
2001-07-31 16:20             ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31 16:53               ` Darren New
2001-07-31 17:10                 ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-31 17:28                   ` Darren New
2001-08-01 16:55                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-01  0:21                 ` David Bolen
2001-08-01  3:33                   ` David Bolen
2001-07-30 12:49   ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 13:13     ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 13:49       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  1:10         ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-31  3:28     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-30 15:36 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-30 22:58 ` Gary Scott
2001-08-01 10:51   ` AG
2001-08-01 17:10     ` Russ
2001-07-31  2:41 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31  4:24   ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  5:18     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31 10:53     ` Philip Anderson
2001-07-31  8:03 ` Keith Thompson
2001-07-31 11:16   ` Philip Anderson
2001-08-01  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2001-08-01  2:29 ` Russ
2001-08-01  7:10   ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01  7:33     ` Russ
2001-08-01 15:00       ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01 15:58         ` Russ
2001-08-01 17:32           ` Gary Scott
2001-08-01  7:13   ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01 14:09     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 17:55       ` Russ
2001-08-01 18:26         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-02  5:16         ` Semicolons (was: How to make Ada a dominant language) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-02  8:53         ` How to make Ada a dominant language Stefan Nobis
2001-08-02 10:34         ` AG
2001-08-02 20:35         ` Barry Kelly
2001-08-01  7:19   ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01  9:51   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-01 11:18   ` David Gillon
2001-08-01 16:05     ` Russ
2001-08-02  5:21       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-01 17:12   ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-01 18:10     ` Russ
2001-08-02 10:34       ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-07  2:55   ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-07  3:56     ` Darren New
2001-08-07  7:34     ` Russ P.
2001-08-07 21:23       ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-01  2:35 ` Mike Silva
2001-08-01  4:32   ` Russ
2001-08-01  4:56     ` Ed Falis
2001-08-01 10:21       ` AG
2001-08-01  4:23 ` raj
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