From: Jean-Pierre Rosen <rosen@adalog.fr>
Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:41:28 +0200
Date: 2005-10-28T08:41:28+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <n6hsjd.nbr.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4361267a$0$22536$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>
Georg Bauhaus a écrit :
>> If you are a newcommer and just want to have a look at what Ada looks
>> like, you want a ready-to-run distribution.
>
>
> Then just pick one (or use the one that comes with your OS).
> If Windows programmers need a squarish colored window in
> order to conceive of a compiler as a compiler,
> then there is a business opportunity. Write another colorful GNAT
> installer that promises ease of use. Use the MS trick. This has been
> suggested many times, and if the installer is worth it, I'll be
> among those who will consider bying at an adequate price.
Yes, a nice looking ready-to-use distribution is very important for the
promotion of Ada. That's why everyone was happy when Adacore announced a
new public version, long after the oldish 3.15p. And then everyone was
disappointed to see that it had been done in a way that would have an
adverse effect for the goal of promoting Ada.
Of course, anyone could do another one. AdaCore has the tools to do it
in a minute, but they don't want to. Now, someone has to go into all the
nasty details of making a nice distribution to replace AdaCore. Who will
do it? I don't think anybody will - and I regret it. I would bet that if
such a distribution did appear, AdaCore would revert its position in the
next week.
>> You download Gnat from ACT's site (with some suspiscion: why do these
>> guys require me to fill a form), and then you discover that you are
>> forced to use it for free software only. Immediate conclusion: "Oh,
>> Ada is just for those dreamers of the FSF, nothing like an industrial
>> language". Of course, these people do not make the difference between
>> Ada, Gnat and Gnat-Pro.
>
>
> (Isn't this mere speculation? So no conclusions to be draw from this.)
What I mean is that I can't imagine a "use case" where a customer would
chose to use AdaCore's services due to this policy, and would have not
if a GMGPL distribution were available *from Adacore*.
OTOH, I can imagine many "use cases" where this situation harms the
promotion of Ada.
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-04 20:15 GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades Marc A. Criley
2005-10-05 8:04 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 8:58 ` michael bode
2005-10-05 9:39 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 11:10 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 12:50 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 14:06 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 14:40 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 15:38 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 16:22 ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
2005-10-05 18:28 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-10-13 21:13 ` wojtek
2005-10-05 14:06 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-10-05 15:02 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 21:25 ` Björn Persson
2005-10-06 1:18 ` David Trudgett
2005-10-06 7:18 ` David Trudgett
2005-10-06 8:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-06 8:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-05 12:25 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-10-05 18:17 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-05 18:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-06 18:20 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-06 19:20 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-06 22:27 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 5:25 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-07 5:54 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 18:43 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-08 6:18 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 11:57 ` Simon Clubley
2005-10-07 12:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-07 12:50 ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-25 15:44 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-25 16:35 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-26 13:43 ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-25 20:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-25 21:13 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-25 22:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-25 22:41 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-26 10:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-26 10:12 ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-27 11:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 13:39 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-27 14:05 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 14:25 ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-27 15:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 16:59 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-27 17:09 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 17:33 ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-27 19:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 19:49 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 19:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-28 6:41 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen [this message]
2005-10-30 14:17 ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-30 17:44 ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-30 19:53 ` Anh Vo
2005-10-28 5:10 ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-28 11:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-28 11:47 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-10-28 12:34 ` none
2005-10-28 12:35 ` Emmanuel Briot
2005-10-28 12:35 ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-28 14:14 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-10-28 21:35 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-29 12:25 ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-28 5:41 ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-28 8:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-28 10:20 ` Niklas Holsti
2005-10-28 18:07 ` Michael Bode
2005-10-31 14:58 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-11-01 16:54 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-11-01 16:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-02 16:15 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-11-02 17:36 ` Steffen Huber
2005-11-02 19:08 ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-02 19:09 ` Stefan Bellon
2005-10-28 18:52 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-02 21:14 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-07 23:11 ` Björn Persson
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