From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: A few questions
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:28:46 -0600
Date: 2015-11-12T12:28:46-06:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <n22lov$4l5$1@loke.gir.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: aa0cf839-651e-494d-a826-c2ce31a7afd3@googlegroups.com
<briot.emmanuel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:aa0cf839-651e-494d-a826-c2ce31a7afd3@googlegroups.com...
>> The "of" form is for iterating over an array or a container whose type
>> has
>> the Default_Iterator aspect (which gives the iterator to use).
>
> The main drawback, though, is that you then get a Cursor, not an Element,
> so
> you still need to call the functions Element or Reference to get to the
> actual
> element. This is slightly less convenient (syntax-wise).
Sure, but not in a case like the OP's, where the "cursor" is the actual data
and there is no element. In that case, "of" is just overkill.
> I wish it was possible
> to use "of" to indicate that we want to get an element, even when the
> right-side is an iterator (which for instance would be convenient when
> writing graph data structures where there really are lots of different
> ways
> to iterate, and a single Default_Iterator is not enough
That doesn't make sense, though, as the iterator interface doesn't contain
the information necessary to do "of" iteration. In particular, it doesn't
provide the container or Reference function -- nor could it, as there may
not be a container.
Personally, I find the "of" form unnecessary; we've iterated arrays for
decades without direct access to the element (using the "cursor", that is
the array index), so why are containers different? Especially as the
indexing form works on all of the language-defined containers (you never
need to explicitly call Reference or Element). So an "in" iterator looks
just like the array iteration that we've been using from the beginning of
time. What's so hard about that?
Randy.
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-31 20:29 A few questions Laurent
2015-10-31 20:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-01 13:16 ` Laurent
2015-11-01 0:25 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-11-01 13:30 ` Laurent
2015-11-03 6:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-01 9:05 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-11-01 13:40 ` Laurent
2015-11-01 18:14 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-11-01 18:40 ` Laurent
2015-11-01 13:42 ` brbarkstrom
2015-11-01 13:52 ` Laurent
2015-11-01 17:59 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-11-01 18:35 ` Laurent
2015-11-02 13:25 ` brbarkstrom
2015-11-01 15:15 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-11-01 16:33 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-11-01 16:36 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-11-01 18:17 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-01 18:53 ` Laurent
2015-11-02 0:41 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-11-02 16:42 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-02 17:45 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-02 18:48 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-03 6:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-03 8:26 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-03 6:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-03 8:34 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-04 16:19 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-05 1:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-05 8:34 ` briot.emmanuel
2015-11-12 18:28 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2015-11-12 20:19 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-12 20:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-12 21:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-13 8:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-13 17:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-13 20:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-13 22:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-14 11:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-14 12:37 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-14 17:24 ` Shark8
2015-11-14 20:09 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-15 18:54 ` Brad Moore
2015-11-13 8:45 ` briot.emmanuel
2015-11-13 17:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-14 19:57 ` briot.emmanuel
2015-11-16 19:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-16 20:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-17 21:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-18 9:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-18 22:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-19 8:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-19 21:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-16 21:50 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-17 21:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-17 23:14 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-17 8:49 ` briot.emmanuel
2015-11-17 22:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-05 8:45 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-05 8:52 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-12 18:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-12 18:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-12 20:02 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-12 21:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-15 17:56 ` Brad Moore
2015-11-15 21:42 ` Simon Wright
2015-11-16 19:16 ` Randy Brukardt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-07 17:43 Laurent
2015-02-07 22:15 ` Brad Moore
2015-02-08 22:37 ` Laurent
2015-02-09 13:56 ` Brad Moore
2015-02-09 18:36 ` Laurent
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