From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Running a preprocessor from GPS?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 19:23:18 -0500
Date: 2015-07-30T19:23:18-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mpef5n$diu$1@loke.gir.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: d3142cab-776d-4daa-8475-1dd4d46d8556@googlegroups.com
"EGarrulo" <egarrulo@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 9:32:17 PM UTC+2, Randy Brukardt wrote:
...
>> And there couldn't be any useful runtime checking, either
>
> Why not? Please explain me why this is acceptable:
>
> -- This conversion will fail if Some_Integer is bigger than what
> -- Constrained_Integer_Type can hold.
> Some_Constrained_Integer := Constrained_Integer_Type (Some_Integer);
>
> whilst this is not:
>
> -- This conversion will fail if Any doesn't contain an Integer.
> Some_Integer := Integer (Any);
>
> I don't see any difference. Both conversions can fail at runtime because
> types
> don't match.
This is the same nonsense that Dmitry has been spouting. In the first
instance, you have the *same* types with different constraints (ranges in
this case). Ranges *might* be checked at rumtime, although Ada compilers
spend an enormous amount of effort into checking them at compile-time (so
there is no overhead).
The second case is a mapping of actual different types. That would require
some sort of runtime type representation, which would imply a lot of
overhead for elementary types (as the runtime type representation would be
larger than the type itself in many cases). Additionally, elementary types
are by-copy; that would prevent the techniques used for tagged types from
working. Most likely, one would have to add a level of indirection into most
objects. That sort of distributed overhead is typically frowned on in Ada.
Indeed, if the second case was allowed in Ada, it definitely would NOT
represent different types. The check would be some sort of constraint check
(similar to the tag check of tagged types). "Any" would represent any type,
and thus would never fail type matching.
Randy.
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2015-07-27 14:28 Running a preprocessor from GPS? EGarrulo
2015-07-27 16:47 ` David Botton
2015-07-27 17:17 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-27 20:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-27 21:14 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-27 22:23 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 7:23 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-28 11:36 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 21:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28 22:11 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 22:41 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 9:52 ` G.B.
2015-07-29 20:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29 22:32 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 23:51 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 0:10 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 6:01 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-30 7:33 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-30 8:03 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 8:08 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-30 8:37 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 8:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 12:15 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 14:11 ` G.B.
2015-07-30 19:29 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 20:53 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 22:52 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-31 7:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-31 7:53 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-07-31 8:26 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-31 9:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-31 9:31 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 11:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-31 13:50 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 16:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-31 11:26 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-31 12:12 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 12:15 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 17:54 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-31 18:20 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 18:51 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 7:20 ` Simon Wright
2015-08-01 8:06 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 8:33 ` Simon Wright
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2015-08-01 11:27 ` Simon Wright
2015-08-01 11:44 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-08-01 12:19 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 17:49 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 18:15 ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-01 18:59 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 20:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-08-01 20:44 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 22:44 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 23:39 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 0:02 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 0:18 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 0:30 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 6:05 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 8:29 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 19:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 21:37 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-03 2:35 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 2:53 ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-02 6:07 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 8:36 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 16:53 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 17:00 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 7:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 8:23 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 8:45 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 9:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 11:22 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-30 13:00 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 13:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 13:51 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 14:46 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-30 14:31 ` G.B.
2015-07-30 18:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 9:18 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 18:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 19:32 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 0:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 11:35 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-30 13:30 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 11:07 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-30 8:28 ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-30 12:00 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 10:01 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-30 10:59 ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-30 11:21 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-07-30 18:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-31 15:21 ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-07-31 17:28 ` Pascal Obry
2015-08-01 11:38 ` Björn Lundin
2015-08-01 20:07 ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-08-03 23:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 6:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 6:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 8:27 ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-30 9:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 11:51 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 12:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 13:55 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-08-30 7:03 ` David Thompson
2015-07-30 14:07 ` EGarrulo
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2015-07-30 18:51 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 19:27 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 19:54 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 22:53 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 23:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 11:54 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 12:42 ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-30 13:21 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 13:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 13:55 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 15:23 ` Niklas Holsti
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2015-07-30 20:10 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 0:23 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2015-07-31 6:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-08-02 10:08 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 12:15 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 23:45 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 0:25 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 8:12 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 18:01 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-29 6:46 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-29 7:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-29 19:57 ` Randy Brukardt
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2015-07-30 18:16 ` Randy Brukardt
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2015-07-28 10:28 ` Brian Drummond
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2015-07-29 12:00 ` EGarrulo
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2015-07-29 7:15 ` Stefan.Lucks
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2015-07-30 19:22 ` Randy Brukardt
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