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From: "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr>
Subject: Re: If not Ada, what else...
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 08:00:01 +0200
Date: 2015-07-11T08:00:01+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mnqbae$355$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oajj4e8l.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net>

Le 11/07/2015 04:31, Paul Rubin a écrit :
>> Well, once upon a time Ada compilers were certified. I don't believe
>> > AdaCore does that anymore.
> There was some federal agency that did it, I thought.  It was eventually
> shut down after it had served its purpose, which was getting
> standardization to really mean something.
> 
You are confusing two different things here. The AJPO (Ada Joint Program
Office) was a government agency established to start and develop the
language. It was closed when the language was considered grown up. It
was not in charge of validation.

There is a an organization, the ACAA (Ada Conformity Assesment
Authority) in charge of validation, whose "technical agent" is Randy
Bruckardt, and an ACAL (Ada Compiler Assesment Laboratory), currently
Adalog, in charge of doing the validations.

So the whole structure is in place if a vendor asks to validate its
compiler. What happens is that since the major customers don't require
validated compilers any more, and since validation is quite expensive,
nobody does it anymore. But if a big customer of AdaCore said they would
sign the contract only if the compiler is officially validated, I'm sure
AdaCore would do it.

There is also a kind of side effect of validation: it is so much
connected to the Ada spirit that every compiler keeps passing the
validation internally, and all the users know that the compiler is
passing the validation internally - therefore reducing the need for
official validation. AdaCore even provides a certificate of "internal
validation" without official value, but good enough for most customers.

-- 
J-P. Rosen
Adalog
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Tel: +33 1 45 29 21 52, Fax: +33 1 45 29 25 00
http://www.adalog.fr

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2011-04-20 10:39 If not Ada, what else Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-20 10:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-04-21  8:47   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-20 11:53 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-04-21  8:46   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-23  2:08     ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-21 17:19 ` Robert Matthews
2011-04-21 19:02   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-21 19:25   ` Florian Weimer
2011-04-22 15:50     ` Robert Matthews
2011-04-22 17:49       ` Brad Cantrell
2011-04-23  2:20         ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-23  9:55           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-23 11:17             ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-22 21:39       ` Florian Weimer
2011-04-23  2:26         ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-23  9:52 ` björn lundin
2011-04-23 11:50 ` Piotr Trojanek
2011-04-23 12:23   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-23 14:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-23 15:04       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-23 16:16     ` Piotr Trojanek
2011-04-28 12:55   ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada... (was Re: If not Ada, what else...) Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-28 16:34     ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada Ludovic Brenta
2011-04-29  8:17       ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-29 12:45         ` stefan-lucks
2015-07-02 10:44         ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2011-05-28 17:33     ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada... (was Re: If not Ada, what else...) Dirk Heinrichs
2015-07-03 19:21 ` If not Ada, what else luvhed
2015-07-03 20:50   ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-04  8:19 ` Rod Kay
2015-07-08 18:11 ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-08 20:33   ` Anh Vo
2015-07-09  6:36     ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-08 22:15   ` David Botton
2015-07-09  7:28     ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-09  9:54       ` G.B.
2015-07-09 12:57       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-09 18:25       ` David Botton
2015-07-09 21:15         ` Bob Duff
2015-07-09 22:23           ` David Botton
2015-07-09 22:39             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10  0:20               ` David Botton
2015-07-10  4:26                 ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10 15:01                   ` David Botton
2015-07-10 16:07                     ` David Botton
2015-07-10 17:39                       ` Bob Duff
2015-07-10 18:22                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10 19:10                       ` David Botton
2015-07-10 19:43                         ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-11 10:46                           ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-11 10:59                             ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-11 13:41                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-11 14:11                                 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-13 14:02                             ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-13 14:16                               ` David Botton
2015-07-13 14:54                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2015-07-16 20:19                                 ` Serge Robyns
2015-07-17  1:50                                   ` David Botton
2015-07-17 17:07                                     ` Anh Vo
2015-07-17 21:28                                       ` Serge Robyns
2015-07-17 22:53                                         ` Anh Vo
2015-07-19 14:31                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-19 16:20                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-19 20:55                                           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-19 21:15                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-20 16:08                                               ` Tero Koskinen
2015-07-20 17:31                                                 ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-21  1:16                                                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21  3:09                                                     ` Shark8
2015-07-21 12:46                                                       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21  5:43                                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-21 12:47                                                     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21 12:55                                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-19 22:38                                           ` David Botton
2015-07-21  6:30                                     ` Gour
2015-07-21 16:24                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-21 17:29                                         ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-21 18:51                                           ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 19:36                                             ` David Botton
2015-07-22  8:44                                               ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-22 12:00                                               ` Jean François Martinez
2015-07-27 22:59                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28  7:00                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-28  7:22                                                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-28 10:36                                                       ` darkestkhan
2015-07-28 10:58                                                       ` G.B.
2015-07-28 20:33                                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28 10:40                                                   ` darkestkhan
2015-07-29  7:30                                                     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-29  8:55                                                       ` Simon Wright
2015-07-29 12:38                                                   ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 13:06                                                     ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 15:41                                                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 17:01                                                       ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-29 18:27                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 18:52                                                           ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-29 22:18                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  6:23                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 16:48                                                                 ` David Botton
2015-07-30 18:10                                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29 19:18                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-29 19:42                                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30  4:54                                                               ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  6:15                                                                 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-30  6:34                                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30  6:47                                                                   ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  7:20                                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 23:13                                                                       ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 17:07                                                       ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-07-29 17:47                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-21 23:03                                                           ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-22  3:24                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-23 16:26                                                               ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-23 17:18                                                                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-23 17:31                                                                   ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-23 19:32                                                                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-23 23:01                                                               ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-07-29 19:32                                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30  5:17                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  7:38                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 18:26                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30 18:37                                                               ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-31  7:14                                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 10:59                                                     ` darkestkhan
2015-08-19 22:19                                                 ` rriehle
2015-08-19 22:58                                                   ` Anh Vo
2015-08-19 23:32                                                     ` rriehle
2015-08-20  1:08                                                       ` Peter Chapin
2015-08-21 15:14                                                       ` Anh Vo
2015-08-21 16:07                                                         ` Anh Vo
2015-08-21 17:17                                                           ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-21 19:51                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 21:06                                               ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 21:51                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 22:55                                                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-22  7:26                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-22  9:05                                                       ` Mart van de Wege
2015-07-22 10:27                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-22  7:01                                                   ` Simon Wright
2015-07-22  7:35                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-27 23:02                                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-27 22:44                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28  7:30                                                   ` Simon Wright
2015-07-28 20:39                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29  7:12                                                       ` Simon Wright
2015-07-29 11:11                                                         ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-07-29 19:31                                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-22 12:53                                               ` Vincent
2015-07-22 13:59                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 20:05                                             ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-21 21:02                                               ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 23:40                                               ` Shark8
2015-07-22 12:58                                               ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-07-22 13:40                                                 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-22 14:29                                                   ` Vincent
2015-07-21 19:30                                           ` David Botton
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2015-08-21  5:21                                       ` Shark8
2015-08-21 17:39                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-11  2:31                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-11  6:00                           ` J-P. Rosen [this message]
2015-07-11  7:51                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-11  8:47                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21  1:34                           ` Luke A. Guest
2015-07-27  9:09                       ` Assertions in SPARK (Was: If not Ada, what else...) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-27 10:56                         ` G.B.
2015-07-27 21:59                           ` Peter Chapin
2015-07-11 11:10                   ` If not Ada, what else Pascal Obry
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