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From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org>
Subject: Re: newbie, Spark 2014 or Ada 2012
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:59:24 -0700
Date: 2015-07-09T14:59:24-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mnmqp6$70f$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zj356p2q.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net>

On 07/09/2015 01:41 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> writes:
>> In simple terms: all programs need to be correct, robust, and reliable.
> 
> But they also have to ship on time, and that's often of higher priority ;-).

"It doesn't matter what you do, the bridge must be finished by the end of the
month." If the civil engineer goes along with that, when the bridge collapses,
killing hundreds of people, he's going to be in big trouble. Same if he agrees
to use inferior materials.

All bridges need to be correct, robust, and reliable. Schedule and cost are
secondary.

Allowing error-ridden, fragile S/W to cost people huge sums of money and
inconvenience should be equally unacceptable. The incompetent coders who create
such S/W should be in the same kind of big trouble as the irresponsible civil
engineer. When that happens, shipping on time will never be of higher priority.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-09 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-06  0:28 newbie, Spark 2014 or Ada 2012 nomadlite
2015-07-06  1:30 ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-06  7:04   ` nomadfate
2015-07-06  7:20     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-06  7:50     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-06 18:44       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-06  9:34     ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-06 16:19       ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-06 22:37         ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-07  1:30           ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-07  9:35             ` darkestkhan
2015-07-07 17:26               ` David Botton
2015-07-07  3:46           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2015-07-07  8:24             ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-07  8:57               ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-07 18:48                 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-07 22:56                   ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-08 19:50                     ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-08 22:57                       ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-09 17:59                         ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-09 20:10                           ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-09 20:22                             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-09 20:41                               ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-09 21:59                                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter [this message]
2015-07-09 22:37                                   ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-09 22:55                                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-09 23:25                                       ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10 22:12                             ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-06 19:20     ` David Botton
2015-07-06  2:16 ` David Botton
2015-07-06  6:56   ` nomadfate
2015-07-06 19:18     ` David Botton
2015-07-10 22:49 ` nomadfate
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