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From: mheaney@ni.net (Matthew Heaney)
Subject: Re: Rules for Representation of Subtypes
Date: 1996/09/29
Date: 1996-09-29T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mheaney-ya023180002909961642500001@news.ni.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1996Sep29.082143.1@eisner


In article <1996Sep29.082143.1@eisner>, kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry
Kilgallen) wrote:

>But my X'valid should still work.  And compilers are not allowed to
>change the flow of a program.
>
>        X := my_unchecked_conversion(Y);
>
>        if X'valid
>        then
>                Z(247) := X;
>        else
>                raise my_exception;
>        end if;
>
>No optimizer should stash my X into Z until it determines the
>result of my conditional.  Likewise for:
>
>        X:= my_unchecked_conversion(Y);
>
>        if not X'valid then raise my_exception; end if;
>
>        Z(247) := X;
>
>no optimizer should stash my X into Z until it knows the result
>of the possible flow control change represented by raise my_exception.

You raise a good point: no optimizer "should" stash X into Z until the
expression is evalutated.  But what is the rule for optimization of
expressions involving the Valid attribute?  The AARM95, Section 13.9.2
discusses the use of that attribute, but doesn't have anything to say about
whether it is allowed to be optimized away.

My hunch is that a compiler will not optimize away the use of the Valid
attribute to check the results of Unchecked_Conversion, because that is one
the cases explicity called out in the RM95 for its use.

>Larry Kilgallen

Matt

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  reply	other threads:[~1996-09-29  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-09-22  0:00 Rules for Representation of Subtypes Matthew Heaney
1996-09-23  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-24  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-26  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-26  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-27  0:00           ` Mark A Biggar
1996-09-30  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-01  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-01  0:00                 ` Samuel Tardieu
1996-10-01  0:00                   ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-01  0:00                   ` Valid Attribute and Unchecked Conversion Matthew Heaney
1996-10-02  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-04  0:00                       ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-04  0:00                         ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-07  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-09  0:00                             ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-04  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-04  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11  0:00                             ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-12  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-06  0:00                           ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-07  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-09  0:00                               ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-07  0:00                           ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-08  0:00                           ` Alan Brain
1996-10-07  0:00                         ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-07  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-10  0:00                           ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-11  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14  0:00                               ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-14  0:00                               ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-01  0:00                 ` Rules for Representation of Subtypes Robert A Duff
1996-09-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-29  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-29  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-29  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney [this message]
1996-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-01  0:00                   ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-02  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-02  0:00                       ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-06  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-29  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-30  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-03  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-02  0:00         ` Valid Attribute and Unchecked Conversion Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-02  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-02  0:00         ` George Haddad
1996-10-03  0:00           ` John Herro
1996-10-04  0:00             ` Karl Cooper {46901}
1996-10-07  0:00               ` Mark A Biggar
1996-10-08  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-06  0:00               ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-14  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-27  0:00       ` Rules for Representation of Subtypes Matthew Heaney
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-23  0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1996-09-23  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-23  0:00   ` Samuel T. Harris
1996-09-26  0:00     ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1996-09-24  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-26  0:00     ` Keith Thompson
1996-09-26  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-27  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-27  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-24  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-09-28  0:00 Robert Dewar
1996-09-29  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-29  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-28  0:00 Robert Dewar
1996-09-29  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-29  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-29  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-30  0:00     ` Art Schwarz
1996-09-30  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-01  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-01  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-01  0:00         ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-09-28  0:00 Robert Dewar
1996-09-30  0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-02  0:00 Franco Mazzanti
1996-10-03  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-03  0:00 Franco Mazzanti
1996-10-03  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-10  0:00 W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1996-10-10  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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