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From: matthew_heaney@acm.org (Matthew Heaney)
Subject: Re: Ada generics are bad
Date: 1998/04/14
Date: 1998-04-14T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <matthew_heaney-ya023680001404981917520001@news.ni.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3533d2b3.81874922@news.mindspring.com


In article <3533d2b3.81874922@news.mindspring.com>, munck@acm.org wrote:

>Nonsense.  You fix a "broken" feature so that it works the way
>you want it to, and then the developer comes out with a new 
>release in which that feature either stays the way it was or
>is changed to work a different way.  Now what do you do? "Fix"
>it again?  Change all of you existing documents that use that
>feature of the app?  Either way, you end up spending all of 
>your time fixing all of your application packages.

Not necessarily.  I could send the fix to the original developer, and then
(hopefully) he'll incorporate it into the next release.  (That will be
completed within hours or days.)

>If you think that it's changing in the direction of increased
>release of source code by developing companies, you're living
>in a software dreamworld. 

Then at least provide decent customer support.  If there's a problem with
the software, and I tell you about it, then how about repairing the
software and sending me the repaired version?

I'm not saying I'm unwilling to pay for software.  I am and I do.  I even
pay my shareware fees!  It's just that if there's a problem, and I don't
have the source, then I'm pretty much powerless to do anything about it.

With my car, if there's a problem with my carburetor, I can go to my local
parts store and buy a new carburetor.  I can even drive the car to the
dealer, and get it fixed on the spot.

Why shouldn't software be the same way?  Why do we even call it _soft_ware
anyway, if repairs and enhancements take so long?  Why does software come
with a disclaimer, instead of a warranty?

I guess what I'm really asking for is better customer service.  When
there's a problem, my desire is that I get a fixed version within a few
hours of my letting you know about it.  I'm not even asking for
enhancements - just that the errors get repaired.

In the end we're all in the "needs satisfaction" business.  If my needs as
a consumer of software are satisfied by the vendor, without him releasing
the source, then so be it.  But this is frequently not the case.




  reply	other threads:[~1998-04-14  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-04-08  0:00 Ada generics are bad Glenden Lee
1998-04-08  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-04-09  0:00 ` Anonymous
1998-04-10  0:00 ` Christopher Green
1998-04-10  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1998-04-11  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1998-04-13  0:00     ` Christopher Green
1998-04-13  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1998-04-13  0:00         ` nabbasi
1998-04-13  0:00           ` future of proprietry source code (was: Ada generics are bad) Fergus Henderson
1998-04-14  0:00             ` David Masterson
1998-04-16  0:00               ` David Kastrup
1998-04-16  0:00                 ` David Masterson
1998-04-17  0:00                   ` David Kastrup
1998-04-17  0:00               ` campo
1998-04-16  0:00             ` Tim Smith
1998-04-17  0:00               ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1998-04-18  0:00                 ` Bill Gribble
1998-04-20  0:00                   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-04-21  0:00             ` William Tanksley
1998-04-13  0:00         ` Ada generics are bad Christopher Green
1998-04-14  0:00         ` Robert Munck
1998-04-14  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney [this message]
1998-04-15  0:00           ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-04-14  0:00         ` Al Christians
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