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* Pronunciation
@ 2005-06-20 19:54 Florian Weimer
  2005-06-20 20:36 ` Pronunciation David Hoos
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From: Florian Weimer @ 2005-06-20 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw)


How do you pronounce "Ada"?  Is this pronunciation acceptable?

  <http://cougar.eb.com/sound/a/ada00001.wav>



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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-20 19:54 Pronunciation Florian Weimer
@ 2005-06-20 20:36 ` David Hoos
  2005-06-20 20:36 ` Pronunciation Martin Dowie
  2005-06-21  7:36 ` Pronunciation Preben Randhol
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From: David Hoos @ 2005-06-20 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Weimer; +Cc: comp.lang.ada

Perfect pronunciation (NOTE spelling correction, though).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Florian Weimer" <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:54 PM
Subject: Pronunciation


> How do you pronounce "Ada"?  Is this pronunciation acceptable?
> 
>  <http://cougar.eb.com/sound/a/ada00001.wav>
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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-20 19:54 Pronunciation Florian Weimer
  2005-06-20 20:36 ` Pronunciation David Hoos
@ 2005-06-20 20:36 ` Martin Dowie
  2005-06-20 20:40   ` Pronunciation Florian Weimer
  2005-06-21  7:36 ` Pronunciation Preben Randhol
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From: Martin Dowie @ 2005-06-20 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)


Florian Weimer wrote:
> How do you pronounce "Ada"?  Is this pronunciation acceptable?
> 
>   <http://cougar.eb.com/sound/a/ada00001.wav>

Yup, that good.

-- Martin



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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-20 20:36 ` Pronunciation Martin Dowie
@ 2005-06-20 20:40   ` Florian Weimer
  2005-06-20 21:28     ` Pronunciation Larry Kilgallen
  2005-06-21  9:28     ` Pronunciation Georg Bauhaus
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From: Florian Weimer @ 2005-06-20 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw)


* Martin Dowie:

> Florian Weimer wrote:
>> How do you pronounce "Ada"?  Is this pronunciation acceptable?
>>   <http://cougar.eb.com/sound/a/ada00001.wav>
>
> Yup, that good.

Thanks.  What about "GNAT"?  Like the fly?

  <http://cougar.eb.com/sound/g/gnat0001.wav>



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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-20 20:40   ` Pronunciation Florian Weimer
@ 2005-06-20 21:28     ` Larry Kilgallen
  2005-06-21  7:39       ` Pronunciation Preben Randhol
  2005-06-24 14:06       ` Pronunciation cdm
  2005-06-21  9:28     ` Pronunciation Georg Bauhaus
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From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2005-06-20 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)


In article <87d5qg3gom.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>, Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:

> Thanks.  What about "GNAT"?  Like the fly?

The pronunciations I have heard for GNAT are not like the insect.
For the insect, the G is silent, whereas the pronunciations I have
heard for GNAT emphasize the G as non-silent (with the rest the same).



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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-20 19:54 Pronunciation Florian Weimer
  2005-06-20 20:36 ` Pronunciation David Hoos
  2005-06-20 20:36 ` Pronunciation Martin Dowie
@ 2005-06-21  7:36 ` Preben Randhol
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From: Preben Randhol @ 2005-06-21  7:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Weimer; +Cc: comp.lang.ada

On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:54:07PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> How do you pronounce "Ada"?  Is this pronunciation acceptable?
> 
>   <http://cougar.eb.com/sound/a/ada00001.wav>

Sounds like a nice English pronounciation of the name.

-- 
Preben Randhol -------------- http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/Ada95 --
                 �For me, Ada95 puts back the joy in programming.�



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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-20 21:28     ` Pronunciation Larry Kilgallen
@ 2005-06-21  7:39       ` Preben Randhol
  2005-06-24 14:06       ` Pronunciation cdm
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From: Preben Randhol @ 2005-06-21  7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: comp.lang.ada

On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 04:28:35PM -0500, Larry Kilgallen wrote:
> In article <87d5qg3gom.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>, Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:
> 
> > Thanks.  What about "GNAT"?  Like the fly?
> 
> The pronunciations I have heard for GNAT are not like the insect.
> For the insect, the G is silent, whereas the pronunciations I have
> heard for GNAT emphasize the G as non-silent (with the rest the same).

Yes I'm pretty sure Robert Deward say Gnat with G in one of the lectures
here:

   http://www.gnat.com/aa_lectures.php

Don't have time to find it again now, but later this evening...

-- 
Preben Randhol -------------- http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/Ada95 --
                 �For me, Ada95 puts back the joy in programming.�



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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-20 20:40   ` Pronunciation Florian Weimer
  2005-06-20 21:28     ` Pronunciation Larry Kilgallen
@ 2005-06-21  9:28     ` Georg Bauhaus
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From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2005-06-21  9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)


Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Martin Dowie:
> 
> 
>>Florian Weimer wrote:
>>
>>>How do you pronounce "Ada"?  Is this pronunciation acceptable?
>>>  <http://cougar.eb.com/sound/a/ada00001.wav>
>>
>>Yup, that good.
> 
> 
> Thanks.  What about "GNAT"?  Like the fly?
> 
>   <http://cougar.eb.com/sound/g/gnat0001.wav>

A lecture by Robert Dewar at the MIT is publicly
available as a Quicktime video,
http://www.adacore.com/aa_lectures.php

There are some more videos offering pronunciations.



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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-20 21:28     ` Pronunciation Larry Kilgallen
  2005-06-21  7:39       ` Pronunciation Preben Randhol
@ 2005-06-24 14:06       ` cdm
  2005-06-24 14:57         ` Pronunciation David Hoos
  2005-06-24 23:56         ` Pronunciation Larry Elmore
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From: cdm @ 2005-06-24 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw)


>> Thanks.  What about "GNAT"?  Like the fly?
>
>The pronunciations I have heard for GNAT are not like the insect.
>For the insect, the G is silent, whereas the pronunciations I have
>heard for GNAT emphasize the G as non-silent (with the rest the same).

Yes, they use the "g".  Like GNU, pronouncing each letter.

(Why do languages bother throwing in silent letters?)





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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-24 14:06       ` Pronunciation cdm
@ 2005-06-24 14:57         ` David Hoos
  2005-06-24 23:56         ` Pronunciation Larry Elmore
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From: David Hoos @ 2005-06-24 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cdm; +Cc: comp.lang.ada

Because, for example, in Italian, the letter "h" is silent, but it
renders a preceding "c" or "g" hard, wheereas those letters are
soft when not followed by "h".  For example the two
Italian words "ci" and "chi" are pronounced as one could
phoneticise in English "chee", and "kee", respectively.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cdm" <charlie.mccutcheon@hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Pronunciation


>>> Thanks.  What about "GNAT"?  Like the fly?
>>
>>The pronunciations I have heard for GNAT are not like the insect.
>>For the insect, the G is silent, whereas the pronunciations I have
>>heard for GNAT emphasize the G as non-silent (with the rest the same).
> 
> Yes, they use the "g".  Like GNU, pronouncing each letter.
> 
> (Why do languages bother throwing in silent letters?)
> 
> 
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> comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
> http://www.ada-france.org/mailman/listinfo/comp.lang.ada
> 
>




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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-24 14:06       ` Pronunciation cdm
  2005-06-24 14:57         ` Pronunciation David Hoos
@ 2005-06-24 23:56         ` Larry Elmore
  2005-06-27 16:41           ` Pronunciation Adam Beneschan
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From: Larry Elmore @ 2005-06-24 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)


cdm wrote:
>>>Thanks.  What about "GNAT"?  Like the fly?
>>
>>The pronunciations I have heard for GNAT are not like the insect.
>>For the insect, the G is silent, whereas the pronunciations I have
>>heard for GNAT emphasize the G as non-silent (with the rest the same).
> 
> 
> Yes, they use the "g".  Like GNU, pronouncing each letter.
> 
> (Why do languages bother throwing in silent letters?)

Usually because pronunciation has changed while the spelling has
remained static.  Sometimes it's due to idiot grammarians "restoring"
something along those lines, too, such as with the English "debt".

--Larry



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* Re: Pronunciation
  2005-06-24 23:56         ` Pronunciation Larry Elmore
@ 2005-06-27 16:41           ` Adam Beneschan
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From: Adam Beneschan @ 2005-06-27 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)


Larry Elmore wrote:

> > (Why do languages bother throwing in silent letters?)
>
> Usually because pronunciation has changed while the spelling has
> remained static.


The German language has a number of words beginning with "kn", and in
German, both the K and the N are pronounced.  Some of those words made
their way into English, and at some point people decided it was too
bothersome to pronounce the "k", but the letter remained in the
spelling.  I think the situation is roughly the same with "gn",
although I remember more "kn" words from high-school German than "gn".
(More accurately, I remember remembering them at some point.)

                                 -- Adam




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