Ada & Builder

Ada & Builder

[Szymon Guz]

Lately I started a rather huge project and now I'd like to implement 
this. That's the main problem. I don't know what to choose.. Ada or 
Borland Builder. First of all I'd like to make the program work under 
both linux and windows but that's not a problem. The real problem is 
that I need to make some windows in the program. If I implement it in 
Ada then I'll have to use for example GtkAda but Gtk doesn't look nice, 
what's more for example glade is so unstable that it can crash while 
working with that. I'd rather use some stable application for developing 
software. If I choose Builder I'll have to write it in C++ and that is 
what I want to avoid too. In work I use Builder and Kylix and I must say 
that using it is quite easy and nice but debuging takes ages so I'd like 
to use Ada.
Well, what do you think, what should I do ?

Re: Ada & Builder

[Stephen Leake]

Szymon Guz <alpha@skynetSMIECI.VONorg.NOJUSZpl> writes:

> Well, what do you think, what should I do ?

Use Ada and GtkAda, but not Glade. It's quite easy, once you get used
to it.

GtkAda has ways of implementing custom look & feel, so you can make it
look as "nice" as you want.

-- 
-- Stephe

Re: Ada & Builder

[James E. Hopper]

Yes i have been using glade for gtk for a while, but in my latest
project i got tired of it and decided to just use the gtkada example
code to help me do it by hand. it seems to work fine.

by the way gtkada lets you run on mac os x (which is what i use) and
not just linux and windows.

jim

In article <mailman.67.1075426184.2270.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>,
Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@acm.org> wrote:

> Szymon Guz <alpha@skynetSMIECI.VONorg.NOJUSZpl> writes:
> 
> > Well, what do you think, what should I do ?
> 
> Use Ada and GtkAda, but not Glade. It's quite easy, once you get used
> to it.
> 
> GtkAda has ways of implementing custom look & feel, so you can make it
> look as "nice" as you want.

Re: Ada & Builder

[Preben Randhol]

On 2004-01-29, Szymon Guz <alpha@skynetSMIECI.VONorg.NOJUSZpl> wrote:
> Borland Builder. First of all I'd like to make the program work under 
> both linux and windows but that's not a problem. The real problem is 
> that I need to make some windows in the program. If I implement it in 
> Ada then I'll have to use for example GtkAda but Gtk doesn't look nice, 
> what's more for example glade is so unstable that it can crash while 
> working with that. 

This is not true at all. Firstly use GtkAda 2 (not Gtkada 1). Secondly if
you are developing for both windows and Linux why don't you also
develope the program *in* Linux? You will see that it is much easier and
better than using Windows. Thirdly it is hogwash to say that GtkAda
doesn't look nice. Look at the screenshots here and explain to me what
isn't nice: http://gtk-wimp.sourceforge.net/screenshots/
and if you don't like this theme you can always choose a different from
here: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/index.php 
or make your own theme.

I'd say use Ada and GtkAda.

Please tell us what Window version and GtkAda version you use.

-- 
"Saving keystrokes is the job of the text editor, not the programming
 language."

Re: Ada & Builder

[Alexandre E. Kopilovitch]

Szymon Guz wrote:

> If I choose Builder I'll have to write it in C++ and that is 
> what I want to avoid too. In work I use Builder and Kylix and I must say 
> that using it is quite easy and nice but debuging takes ages so I'd like 
> to use Ada.
> Well, what do you think, what should I do ?

Perhaps you should make a prototype with Kylix, and then decide whether to
continue with Kylix for you product or switch to Ada, using the experience,
which you gained with your Kylix-based prototype for design of Ada/GtkAda-based
product.



Alexander Kopilovitch                      aek@vib.usr.pu.ru
Saint-Petersburg
Russia