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From: "Alexander E. Kopilovich" <aek@VB1162.spb.edu>
To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
Subject: Re: OOP Language for OS Development
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:29:36 +0400 (MSD)
Date: 2004-04-25T20:29:36+04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1082910696.313.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6GdnZco0f4NeBfdRVn-gQ@wideopenwest.com>; from Thomas Gagn? at Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:09:08 -0400

Thomas Gagn? wrote:

> was suggested by Alan Kay years ago: 
> <http://gagne.homedns.org/~tgagne/contrib/EarlyHistoryST.html#coda>
>
>    "Hardware is really just software crystallized early. It is there to
>    make program schemes run as efficiently as possible. But far too
>    often the hardware has been presented as a given and it is up to
>    software designers to make it appear reasonable. This has caused
>    low-level techniques and excessive optimization to hold back
>    progress in program design. As Bob Barton used to say: "Systems
>    programmers are high priests of a low cult."

The latter is certainly true, but crowds of low priests of several relatively
high cults constitute much more notorious problem.

>    "One way to think about progress in software is that a lot of it has
>    been about finding ways to /late-bind/, then waging campaigns to
>    convince manufacturers to build the ideas into hardware. Early
>    hardware had wired programs and parameters; random access memory was
>    a scheme to late-bind them. Looping and indexing used to be done by
>    address modification in storage; index registers were a way to
>    late-bind. Over the years software designers have found ways to
>    late-bind the locations of computations--this led to base/bounds
>    registers, segment relocation, page MMUs, migratory processes, and
>    so forth. Time-sharing was held back for years because it was
>    "inefficient"-- but the manufacturers wouldn't put MMUs on the
>    machines, universities had to do it themselves! Recursion late-binds
>    parameters to procedures, but it took years to get even rudimentary
>    stack mechanisms into CPUs. Most machines still have no support for
>    dynamic allocation and garbage collection and so forth. In short,
>    most hardware designs today are just re-optimizations of moribund
>    architectures."

Interesting quotation - it makes quite obvious that late/early binding is
a dynamic form of static notion of generalization/specialization.



Alexander Kopilovich                      aek@vib.usr.pu.ru
Saint-Petersburg
Russia





  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-25 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-15  5:53 OOP Language for OS Development KingIshu
2004-04-15  8:02 ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-15 12:25 ` Ioannis Vranos
2004-04-15 12:49   ` Ioannis Vranos
2004-04-15 12:39 ` Thomas Gagné
2004-04-15 14:32 ` jeffc
2004-04-15 14:45 ` Luke Guest
2004-04-17 16:30 ` Ender Everett
2004-04-19  1:53 ` EventHelix.com
2004-04-19  7:25   ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-19  8:35   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-04-19  9:16     ` Ioannis Vranos
2004-04-19 11:15       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-04-19 11:32       ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-19 17:36       ` Christopher Benson-Manica
2004-04-19 11:09   ` Philippe Ribet
2004-04-22  7:34     ` Calum
2004-04-22 10:48       ` John English
2004-04-23  8:36       ` Philippe Ribet
2004-04-23  9:55         ` Calum
2004-04-23 14:30           ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-23 15:04             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-23 22:08               ` Brian_Heilig
2004-04-23 22:33                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-24 12:53                   ` Robert C. Martin
2004-04-25  1:25                     ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-25 12:30                       ` Robert C. Martin
2004-04-24 19:58                   ` Anthony Weissenberger
2004-04-25  2:24                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-24  0:01               ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-24 15:27             ` JKop
2004-04-24 21:41               ` Greg C
2004-04-24 22:17               ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-29 17:43               ` Brian_Heilig
2004-04-23 16:22           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-23 16:45             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-23 20:13               ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-23 21:18                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-24 10:33                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-25  2:27                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-23 23:03               ` Brian_Heilig
2004-04-25  2:42                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-04 18:37                   ` Dr Chaos
2004-05-05 11:58                   ` Ged
2004-05-05 12:28                     ` Thomas Gagné
2004-05-06  9:35                       ` Ged
2004-04-24  0:10               ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-25  2:37                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-24  1:00 ` Brian_Heilig
2004-04-26  3:43   ` Berend de Boer
2004-04-26  4:17     ` Christopher Browne
2004-04-26 21:52       ` Berend de Boer
2004-05-04  4:14     ` Richard  Riehle
2004-05-04 21:15       ` Berend de Boer
2004-04-28 19:53   ` Philippe Ribet
2004-04-29  8:32     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-30 17:48       ` Philippe Ribet
2004-04-29 17:39     ` Brian_Heilig
     [not found]       ` <1402879.WneVss6BD6@linux1.krischik.com>
     [not found]         ` <ba03b545.0404300503.376243c8@posting.google.com>
     [not found]           ` <c6tk6v$amm$1@news.BelWue.DE>
2004-04-30 13:46             ` Preben Randhol
2004-04-30 19:30             ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-24 22:09 ` Thomas Gagné
2004-04-25  2:17   ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-25 16:31     ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-04-25 16:58     ` Isaac Gouy
2004-04-26  0:01       ` Cesar Rabak
2004-04-26  6:14         ` Isaac Gouy
2004-04-26  2:06       ` Thomas Gagné
2004-04-25 16:29   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich [this message]
2004-04-26  4:17   ` Christopher Browne
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