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From: "Alexander E. Kopilovich" <aek@VB1162.spb.edu>
To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
Subject: Re: A community Windows binding
Date: Fri,  8 Oct 2004 06:39:37 +0400 (MSD)
Date: 2004-10-08T06:39:37+04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.240.1097203127.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F9f9d.5205$UP1.1607@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>; from Jeffrey Carter at Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:37:41 GMT

Jeffrey Carter wrote:

> Between callbacks and the single queue of events for all windows of JEWL 
> is an approach more suited to concurrent languages: multiple queues, one 
> per top-level window, with the assumption of one task per queue/window. 
> There should be the ability to select what events will be put in the 
> queue, and the possibility to combine queues when a window doesn't merit 
> its own task. Such an approach should scale better than JEWL's single 
> queue, and be more readable than callbacks.
>
> What would be ideal would be an Ada-centric windowing library, with 
> implementations based on Win32, X, and the like.

Well, message queue management can be made Ada-centric, and perhaps this is
really a good idea (but are there any preliminary works in this direction?
not necessarily already Ada-centric, perhaps some abstract foundations may
be of interest if they rely upon only those concepts that have adequate
representation in Ada).

But this (message queue managent) is just one aspect of full-scale windowing
library, and actually most users touch it only briefly. Much more heavily
used aspect is ontology, and the windowing ontologies of Win32 and X systems
aren't the same. For example, vast majority of Delphi users don't know the
term "canvas", but as far as I know, all X programmers are perfectly aware
of it.

Also, full-scale windowing library always use containers rather heavily.
But reading all discussions on AI-302 (Container Library) I never seen a sign
of recognition of this need.





Alexander Kopilovich                      aek@vib.usr.pu.ru
Saint-Petersburg
Russia





  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-08  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <usm8shkul.fsf@acm.org>
2004-10-05 23:28 ` A community Windows binding Stephen Leake
2004-10-06  4:26   ` David Botton
2004-10-06 17:42     ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-07 16:33       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-07 17:37         ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-08  2:39           ` Alexander E. Kopilovich [this message]
2004-10-08  2:43           ` Nick Roberts
2004-10-08  4:56             ` tmoran
2004-10-08 23:17             ` chris
2004-10-09  1:31             ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-09  1:36             ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-09  3:15               ` Steve
2004-10-09  6:23                 ` tmoran
     [not found]                 ` <z7ybd.26154$hk6.998363@news20.bellglobal.com>
2004-10-15  1:12                   ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-15 20:36                     ` David Botton
2004-10-17 13:25                       ` Stephane Riviere
2004-10-09 13:20               ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-10  9:04                 ` CBFalconer
2004-10-10 14:39                   ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-14 16:54                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-14 16:53                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-10  3:38               ` David Botton
2004-10-14 16:46             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
     [not found]           ` <rSftVP19_F@VB1162.spb.edu>
2004-10-08  8:18             ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-08  1:36         ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-06  4:28   ` CBFalconer
2004-10-06  6:02     ` tmoran
2004-10-06 11:35     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-10-06 14:04       ` Steve
2004-10-06  6:22   ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-10-06 17:18   ` Nick Roberts
2004-10-07  6:38   ` Frank Piron
2004-10-07  9:44   ` Ross Higson
2004-10-07 16:39     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-07 22:27       ` Ross Higson
     [not found] <41664D4E.7040405@netcabo.pt>
2004-10-08 21:38 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
     [not found] <uacv0hhj0.fsf_-_@acm.org>
2004-10-10 18:05 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-10 18:17   ` Andre
2004-10-10 20:55     ` tmoran
2004-10-11  0:34   ` David Botton
2004-10-11  0:39   ` David Botton
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