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From: "Andrew Carroll" <andrew@carroll-tech.net>
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>
Subject: No call for Ada
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:42:07 -0600
Date: 2004-04-06T17:42:07-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.198.1081293833.327.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20040406215514.474514C410D@lovelace.ada-france.org

Boy, my original post, "No call for Ada", has blown up and spread out like a
wildfire.
I think it was originally "No call for Ada?".

I'm no expert with Ada but I've been trying things out.  I wrote several
small programs in Ada.  Nothing to really see the benefit of the "package"
and maintenance features of Ada yet.  One thing I have noticed, after having
worked with Ada a little bit and going to other "systems" is that Ada IS
spread out.  You go get GTK for this, and RAPID for that, and GNAT, and
MGNAT, and AdaGIDE, and on and on.  I was so tired of downloading stuff and
"making" it that I just went to Visual Basic, even though I had only a
tutorial on VB from a friend and some old software.

It isn't that "Ada" was bad, or unproductive, it was all the work to get the
tools.  Using VB has to be the easiest development I have done.  All I
wanted was to make a little tool to organize my CRC Cards so I could look at
them and edit them without having to scroll through a Word doc or buy some
expensive UML product.  It took me all of 10 hours.  Almost the same amount
of time I spent downloading and "making" all the Ada tools.

I haven't given up on Ada and I still seek to us Ada because it fits the way
I want to work.  It's just amazing to me that there is no one entity to
organize all these parts.  Microsoft is the entity for Microsoft, Sun is for
Java, Borland is one for C++.  With Ada it is all scattered about and
there's no apparent group effort.  Whatever it is, it's not a centralized
effort.  At least I don't see a centralized effort.

Would anyone be interested in that?

Good software is definitely NOT doomed.  In fact, quite the contrary.
Here's a read for you:
http://www.ad-mkt-review.com/public_html/air/ai200401.html


Andrew Carroll
Carroll-Tech
andrew@carroll-tech.net






       reply	other threads:[~2004-04-06 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20040406215514.474514C410D@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-04-06 23:42 ` Andrew Carroll [this message]
2004-04-07  1:13   ` No call for Ada Ed Falis
2004-04-07  7:06   ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-08 12:39     ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-08 16:58       ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-07 13:46   ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-10 19:27 No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping Wes Groleau
2004-04-10 20:06 ` tmoran
2004-04-10 21:38   ` Wes Groleau
2004-04-12 22:34     ` Randy Brukardt
2004-04-14 11:41       ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-14 14:12         ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-04-14 17:52           ` No call for Ada Jeffrey Carter
2004-04-15 16:17             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
     [not found] <20040409115529.8C0D24C412B@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-04-09 19:01 ` Andrew Carroll
2004-04-09 20:19   ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-14 14:29     ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-04-10 10:48   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-04-11 17:23     ` chris
2004-04-12 10:29       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-08 12:44 Lionel.DRAGHI
     [not found] <20040408081031.D01934C4136@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-04-08  9:44 ` Andrew Carroll
     [not found] <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-02-07  8:50 ` No call for it Carroll-Tech
2004-02-07 13:00   ` No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Ludovic Brenta
2004-02-07 19:24     ` MSG
2004-02-08  3:15       ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-02 23:18         ` Beth Bruzan
2004-04-03  0:08           ` David Starner
2004-04-03  9:13             ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-03 11:51               ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-03 22:26                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-04 10:00                   ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-05 18:07                     ` No call for Ada Marc A. Criley
2004-04-05 21:16                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-06 11:00                         ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-05 22:09                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-05 22:20                       ` chris
2004-04-06 13:25                         ` Marc A. Criley
2004-04-07  1:17                           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-03 13:06           ` No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Marin David Condic
2004-04-03 14:12             ` James Rogers
2004-04-03 14:29               ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-03 16:54                 ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-03 19:46                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-05 12:10                     ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-05 20:38                       ` Randy Brukardt
2004-04-06 11:59                         ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-06 19:07                           ` Randy Brukardt
2004-04-07  0:31                             ` David Starner
2004-04-07 17:40                               ` Pascal Obry
2004-04-07 22:14                                 ` David Starner
2004-04-07 22:44                                   ` Ed Falis
2004-04-07 23:06                                     ` Szymon Guz
2004-04-08 17:34                                       ` No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototypinglanguage) Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-08 11:46                                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-04-08 13:53                                           ` No call for Ada Samuel Tardieu
2004-04-08  1:58             ` Berend de Boer
     [not found] <20040407175513.BABA64C410A@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-04-07 21:20 ` Andrew Carroll
2004-04-08  6:39   ` Pascal Obry
2004-04-08  9:36   ` Martin Krischik
     [not found] ` <001b01c41ce6$206bad80$0201a8c0@win>
2004-04-08  7:07   ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-06  8:17 No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-04-07  2:15 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-04-07  9:34   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-04-07 11:38     ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-08  9:59       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-04-08 20:46         ` No call for Ada Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-09 11:26           ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-09 15:50             ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-09 11:34           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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