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From: "Marius Amado Alves" <amado.alves@netcabo.pt>
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>
Subject: Re: Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistentuntyped	graphs)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:27:02 +0100
Date: 2004-03-31T12:27:02+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.178.1080732563.327.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: pan.2004.03.31.07.23.59.454490@email.ro

> > That's what I and others do. I don't want a new term.
>
> Of course not. You want the popular word with good connotations
> attached to you, whether or not you fit the definition.

A certain interpretation of 1/10 of a certain definition against a certain
phrasing of a principle.
As I said the phrasing might change.
I whish I had a percentage of people who get this impression of 'bad will'
from the SDC Conditions.
Note the Conditions do not contain the term "open source".

> > In sum I believe we don't need a new term because
> > commercial open source is simply open source i.e. requiring commercial
use
> > to cut a special deal is completely orthogonal to the open source main
> > tenets. The only problem is that current licenses e.g. GPL are badly
phrased
> > and *unintendly* make selling open source *software* (not support or
mugs)
> > unpractical.
>
> Not at all. It was something done very intentionally.

Sure, GPL is perfect. 80% of people use, so it must be, right? Think for
yourself, man. And/or see the discussions in OSI, SDC and other fora.

> > Note selling open source software is a possibility stated in open source
/
> > free software commentary texts.
>
> Right, just like ACT does.

Just like ACT does what? Sell open source software? They don't. They sell
support.

> There are many people who make a profit from
> selling open source software under the GPL;

Nobody profitably sells open source software under the GPL. They sell suport
and coffee mugs.

> Let's be honest; for all the talk about the words not being a trademark,
> if ESR had not came up with open source as a synonym for free software,
> would you honestly be using it here today?

Irrelevant.

> Are you actually using it in an
> older meaning, or just using it because it sounds cool and will attract
> people?

I use it to quickly convey the meaning. And not any older one. What do you
find in the SDC Conditions that is so against it?




  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-31 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-23 20:39 [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-24  7:42 ` Preben Randhol
2004-03-24 17:37   ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-24 10:08     ` Preben Randhol
2004-03-24 13:01       ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-28 15:38         ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-03-28 22:10           ` tmoran
2004-03-29 12:16             ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-29 13:08               ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-29 14:02                 ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-31  7:35                 ` David Starner
2004-03-31 11:27                   ` Marius Amado Alves [this message]
2004-03-30  2:46               ` Stephen Leake
2004-03-30 11:54                 ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-30 15:07                   ` Licensing issues Florian Weimer
2004-03-30 17:56                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-03-31  0:07                       ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-03 17:10                       ` Florian Weimer
2004-03-31  7:36                   ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs) David Starner
2004-03-31 12:27                     ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-31 14:16                       ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-01 16:48                         ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-30 18:53               ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-03-31 12:31                 ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-29  0:45           ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untypedgraphs) Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-01 17:09             ` Licensing issues Jacob Sparre Andersen
     [not found]       ` <200403241301.01079.maa@liacc.up.pt>
2004-03-24 19:27         ` [Announce] Mneson Manual Marius Amado Alves
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